# Quantum cores make stations unaffordable for Joe/anne Sixpack, average EVE player **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 8, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628 "2021-04-08T05:22:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/41 "2021-04-08T12:33:50Z")
> [@Aahz\_If](#): > > We’re restricted within the confines of CCP’s plans and what _they_ let us do, not what we _can_ or _want_ to do. Well, in the same way as you’re confined within the rules as set by creators in any game. What is it that you feel you cannot do? ---
**Author:** ![Aahz\_If](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aahz_if/32/265760_2.png) [@Aahz\_If](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aahz_If)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/43 "2021-04-08T12:38:11Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > What is it that you feel you cannot do? I won’t give you examples. I won’t play that game. I know and you know that there are LOTS of things we can’t do. ---
**Author:** ![Aahz\_If](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aahz_if/32/265760_2.png) [@Aahz\_If](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aahz_If)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/44 "2021-04-08T12:39:30Z")
> [@JuuR\_Zibaoo](#): > > try what you want to do I can’t try what I want to do, that’s why I’m calling EVE _not_ a sandbox. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/45 "2021-04-08T12:41:03Z")
Bring back standings for planting a structure. Structures are meant to be a corporate asset not to be spammed by the solo player. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/46 "2021-04-08T12:41:21Z")
> [@Aahz\_If](#): > > I won’t give you examples. I won’t play that game. So you dont know. Cool. Great discussion, thanks _eyeroll_ ---
**Author:** ![Aahz\_If](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aahz_if/32/265760_2.png) [@Aahz\_If](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aahz_If)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/47 "2021-04-08T12:41:54Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Great discussion, thanks You’re welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Aahz\_If](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aahz_if/32/265760_2.png) [@Aahz\_If](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aahz_If)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/48 "2021-04-08T12:43:47Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Structures are meant to be a corporate asset not to be spammed by the solo player That’s another thing among many other things I can’t do. Stop calling EVE a sandbox and the confusion will be gone. Stop saying it’s “also” PvE. It’s not pve game, it’s PvP game all they way. We get attacked simply for traveling, that’s not PvE. We get attacked for mining, ratting… that’s not PvE. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/49 "2021-04-08T12:47:06Z")
Ratting is PvE, getting away with it is PvP. Eve is a sandbox, you can do whatever you want, but so can everybody else, and that’s where conflict comes from. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/50 "2021-04-08T12:48:02Z")
> [@Aahz\_If](#): > > Stop saying it’s “also” PvE. It’s not pve game, it’s PvP game all they way. EVE is also a PvE game. There are many pure PvP games out there and EVE isn’t one. PvP is everywhere in EVE though, even when you’re doing PvE. ---
**Author:** ![Aahz\_If](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aahz_if/32/265760_2.png) [@Aahz\_If](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aahz_If)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/51 "2021-04-08T12:50:25Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Eve is a sandbox, you can do whatever you want Not true. Read posts above. It’s been determined that EVE is _not_ a sandbox. ---
**Author:** ![Aahz\_If](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aahz_if/32/265760_2.png) [@Aahz\_If](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aahz_If)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/52 "2021-04-08T12:51:32Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > There are many pure PvP games out there and EVE isn’t one. > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > PvP is everywhere in EVE You don’t see the contradiction between those two statements? I do. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/53 "2021-04-08T12:52:31Z")
Your problem seems to be the other people can do what they like too, you don’t seem to like the fact that they can interfere in what you want to do. Tough cookies my friend that’s the game. ---
**Author:** ![Aahz\_If](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aahz_if/32/265760_2.png) [@Aahz\_If](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aahz_If)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/54 "2021-04-08T12:55:00Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Your problem seems to be the other people can do what they like too, you don’t seem to like the fact that they can interfere in what you want to do You assume too much. That’s not my problem. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Tough cookies my friend that’s the game. What are you talking about??? There’s no cookies in EVE, just carrots from what I read. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/55 "2021-04-08T12:55:37Z")
> [@Aahz\_If](#): > > > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > > > There are many pure PvP games out there and EVE isn’t one. > > > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > > > PvP is everywhere in EVE > > You don’t see the contradiction between those two statements? I do. You missed the nuance I made with the word ‘pure’. _Pure_ PvP games. There are games on the market that only offer PvP gameplay, without any interaction with the environment. Games that could not be played if there was no opponent, for example chess. EVE can theoretically be played solo and without interaction with other players… if there were no other players. ---
**Author:** ![Aahz\_If](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aahz_if/32/265760_2.png) [@Aahz\_If](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aahz_If)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/56 "2021-04-08T12:58:57Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > You missed the nuance I made with the word ‘pure’. Oh you play around with words. Semantics? Are you a politician? > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > _Pure_ PvP games. So EVE is not _pure_ lol. I knew that one. > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > EVE can theoretically be played solo and without interaction with other players… if there were no other players I’m not saying we can’t play solo. Here, take your strawman back. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/57 "2021-04-08T12:59:34Z")
Thats right, its not a sandbox (thanks btw, for accepting my definition of a sandbox), but you can do whatever you want anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Aahz\_If](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aahz_if/32/265760_2.png) [@Aahz\_If](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aahz_If)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/58 "2021-04-08T13:03:36Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > but you can do whatever you want anyway. No I can’t. That’s why EVE is not a sandbox. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/59 "2021-04-08T13:04:42Z")
Well as whatever you want to do is a top secret secret, no one can help you achieve it, can they? ---
**Author:** ![Aahz\_If](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aahz_if/32/265760_2.png) [@Aahz\_If](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aahz_If)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/60 "2021-04-08T13:05:12Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > no one can help you achieve it, I’m not asking for help. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/61 "2021-04-08T13:05:49Z")
Youre not asking for much, just blind faith that there is an impossible task. Maybe Id like to see if I can do it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628.md?page=4)