# Quantum cores make stations unaffordable for Joe/anne Sixpack, average EVE player **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 8, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628 "2021-04-08T05:22:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Aahz\_If](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aahz_if/32/265760_2.png) [@Aahz\_If](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aahz_If)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/143 "2021-04-08T15:16:48Z")
This forum is full of trolls. I’m out of here. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/144 "2021-04-08T15:19:52Z")
> [@Aahz\_If](#): > > This forum is full of trolls. I’m out of here Disagreement is not trolling. Don’t let the door hit you on the arse when you leave. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/145 "2021-04-08T15:22:33Z")
> [@Aahz\_If](#): > > The topic is Quantum core and how we can’t have stations in space because EVE is not a sandbox. That’s just plainly false. You can still place them. Like you could before. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > That’s not quite true. Medium structures were originally cited for small/solo operations. > > However, that has clearly changed. CCP don’t want everyone to have structures anymore. They are meant to encourage groups to work together like you say and be a meaningful achievement. This. It’s still a sandbox, but CCP suddenly decided that letting people have any structure while being a smallcorp was a no. @OP Now deal with it. I personally embraced it, and it also means I don’t care anymore about being wardeced in HS since I can’t. No more of a need to connect and move my stuff to not lose it … I think it’s a good thing. I can leave and come back like in 2 month and not care about my stuff disappearing… well unless CCP AGAIN decides to ■■■■ up and move assets. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/146 "2021-04-08T15:33:48Z")
Who are you, and what have you done with the real @Anderson_Geten ? 😋 ---
**Author:** ![Rich\_Darine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rich_darine/32/438327_2.png) [@Rich\_Darine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rich_Darine)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/147 "2021-04-08T15:43:21Z")
Happy forum anniversary ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/148 "2021-04-08T15:48:19Z")
Anyone who disagrees with me is a troll. Anyone who makes a point I can’t answer is a double troll! ---
**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/149 "2021-04-08T16:26:46Z")
Eve is definitely a sandbox, just some parts of the box has patches of quicksand in it. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/150 "2021-04-08T16:31:50Z")
With crocodiles lurking in the mangrove… ---
**Author:** ![Katya\_Itzimaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_itzimaru/32/512123_2.png) [@Katya\_Itzimaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Itzimaru)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/151 "2021-04-08T16:34:02Z")
A friend of mine has owned a highsec freeport Astra in his solo corp for a long time. Here’s where I think his situation probably differs from other solo players who feel like they can’t reasonably own a solo citadel. - The citadel itself is more than 20j from both Jita and Amarr - He’s got at least 4-5 accounts, each with a solid PvP character, and he’s capable of multiboxing together them in PvP - Via NPSI stuff his corp has a very green killboard with fleet kills spread across his toons - He’s very capable of moving expensive things around hostile space safely and doing complex logistical operations alone. - He can afford to lose it. Eve is hard, and going solo makes it 5 times harder. If you really put the time, effort and thought into it though there’s very few things out of the reach of a solo player, and solo citadel owning gameplay is no different. ---
**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/152 "2021-04-08T16:41:24Z")
I solo with one account, have done for nearly a decade. Been exploded in some weird and wonderful places also been ganked a few times. I was looking to getting my own place but the risk reward don’t slide especially with the new cores and high-sec gameplay, for a completely solo player its best to either use someone elses home or rent a room from one of the empires. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/153 "2021-04-08T16:59:25Z")
@Dray_Cil Most functionality has been removed (i.e. production, research, harvest moon goo). I think the only thing they still do is provide a pos shield and automatically defend themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/154 "2021-04-08T17:14:03Z")
How much do folks reckon an anchored coreless station is worth? ---
**Author:** ![Dray\_Cil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dray_cil/32/418073_2.png) [@Dray\_Cil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dray_Cil)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/155 "2021-04-08T17:21:10Z")
What about intensive refineries? Probably don’t work either, eh? Dray Cil ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/156 "2021-04-08T17:22:20Z")
People use them as a place to warp when you have a weapon timer. You can’t dock/tether but you can still enter a POS shield strangely. ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/157 "2021-04-08T17:35:01Z")
> [@Sarah\_Olson](#): > > answer No they don’t, you can still use the refinery and compression array but any manufacturing, research, etc, all non functional, you can put a job in for manufacturing but nothing comes out and you lose all your minerals/materials you imputed. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/158 "2021-04-08T18:01:51Z")
> [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](#): > > I solo with one account, have done for nearly a decade. Been exploded in some weird and wonderful places also been ganked a few times. I was looking to getting my own place but the risk reward don’t slide especially with the new cores and high-sec gameplay, for a completely solo player its best to either use someone elses home or rent a room from one of the empires. same here never had a strut ---
**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/159 "2021-04-08T18:59:32Z")
> [@Fale\_Einn](#): > > They are identical, though I don’t see people owning stations being a problem and never have. Not exactly. All of the deployables will auto delete if left unattended for 30 days. Outside of mobile depot “art” in Jita etc, the rest of the “advertising” deployables could maybe be fixed with the ability to use the existing billboards in some way. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/160 "2021-04-08T19:01:49Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > doesn’t deserve So sayeth Scootaloo. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/4/7/b4752f91bca4f04af4b943f315861d8e104098ec.jpeg) Or was it Scooter? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/d/c/3dc4e47b33283c1aa301a3ba4b5f5cf82915e57d.jpeg) Meh, no matter, Scoots has decreed you are not deserving! –Gadget does what she wants ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/161 "2021-04-08T19:31:58Z")
> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > –Gadget does what she wants Tell him : “We got a mind of our own, so go to hell if what you’re thinking is not right !” Don’t let him fool ya ! Or even try to school ya ! ---
**Author:** ![Elwha\_Lynx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elwha_lynx/32/246048_2.png) [@Elwha\_Lynx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elwha_Lynx)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/162 "2021-04-08T20:06:12Z")
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