# Quantum Cores - Updates begin 8 September **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** feedback, official, devblog\ **Created:** [September 1, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126 "2020-09-01T15:55:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 101
**Author:** ![Pedro\_Yurgin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pedro_yurgin/32/361653_2.png) [@Pedro\_Yurgin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pedro_Yurgin)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2068 "2020-09-18T16:17:31Z")
Other then small structures there is already a significant amount of isk from drop and salvage from structures. This isn’t needed to drive content on anything larger then small structures. ---
**Author:** ![Vixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixie_trix/32/204999_2.png) [@Vixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixie_Trix)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2069 "2020-09-19T03:44:58Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > The only people it’s a problem for are the PvE-only farmers who don’t belong in EVE. totally agree, how foolish of them not to ask you how they should play… the nerve of some people ---
**Author:** ![Synergy-Prime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synergy-prime/32/230224_2.png) [@Synergy-Prime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synergy-Prime)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2070 "2020-09-19T08:23:12Z")
> [@CCP\_Dopamine](#): > > explaining the next changes to structures Hmm… The **WHOLE** point of my getting involved with this game was to put a structure up in space and charge 0.01 percent to those capsuleers who want to reprocess and build and save isk in the process. I guess that’s not happening now. So I guess I’ll uninstall the game and move on to another one where the Devs don’t screw their paying players. Bye EVE, it’s was good while it lasted. ---
**Author:** ![Janus\_Chang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/janus_chang/32/230517_2.png) [@Janus\_Chang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Janus_Chang)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2071 "2020-09-19T08:44:58Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > The only people it’s a problem for are the PvE-only farmers who don’t belong in EVE. Oh… You should’ve said that BEFORE I downloaded this game. I should’ve consulted players like you before I started playing, it would’ve saved me a bunch of time. Is there a website that states what kind of players can and cannot play EVE ? It would cut out all the confusion I think. If there isn’t then I may create one, just to save a lot of people time and disk space. I didn’t know players like me weren’t wanted in New Eden but now that I know, well - as Synergy said, all I have to do is uninstall and move on. Plenty of other space games online and offline. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2072 "2020-09-19T09:23:57Z")
> [@Janus\_Chang](#): > > all I have to do is uninstall and move on If you are moving on because a single person on the forums has said somethimg, don’t forget to send me your stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Janus\_Chang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/janus_chang/32/230517_2.png) [@Janus\_Chang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Janus_Chang)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2073 "2020-09-19T09:31:57Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > don’t forget to send me your stuff. I’ll sell everything and destroy my Omega slot with the isk still in the account. I have a week left on it so F- it. Then I’ll uninstall. So NO, my stuff won’t go to you or anyone else. Nice try tho… well, no not really, it was a botched try on your part for the > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > because a single person on the forums has said somethimg And it’s not a single person who say that. I’ve been reading these forum for a while now and it’s perfectly CLEAR that EVE is a private game hosted on a private server geared towards a specific kind of players… just not players like me. ---
**Author:** ![Plaez\_Gohdeipar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/plaez_gohdeipar/32/230049_2.png) [@Plaez\_Gohdeipar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Plaez_Gohdeipar)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2074 "2020-09-19T09:36:33Z")
> [@CCP\_Dopamine](#): > > explaining the next changes to structures. So the “new changes” are that if I’m not a big corporation or don’t belong to one I have no place in EVE ? Well, at least it has the merit of being clear and succinct. > [@Synergy-Prime](#): > > So I guess I’ll uninstall the game and move on to another one where the Devs don’t screw their paying players. That sounds about right. Time to move on to another game. > [@Synergy-Prime](#): > > Bye EVE, it’s was good while it lasted. o7 Indeed it **was** ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2075 "2020-09-19T09:46:39Z")
> [@Janus\_Chang](#): > > I’ve been reading these forum for a while now and it’s perfectly CLEAR that EVE is a private game hosted on a private server geared towards a specific kind of players… just not players like me. How weird, every MMO is a private game on a private server. (as opposed to ‘public’, i.e. government run) As for reading the forums, you clearly haven’t been reading the forums properly, you’ve just been reading posts by a few people if you think the game isn’t for players like you (assuming that you accept that PvP might happen to you anyway, that’s the only bit that matters) ---
**Author:** ![shinson20022](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shinson20022/32/301138_2.png) [@shinson20022](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/shinson20022)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2076 "2020-09-19T09:57:45Z")
But nothing from the change prevents you from doing that. The added cost should be no issue for any corp with income. They are after all a corporate structure. Risk will be about the same Unless your thinking of putting it on the highway or beside a trade hub which is crazy lol. All this talk about big corps sweeping across high sec killing all small Corp structures. That’s never going to happen. Unless your a merc target or In the way of another corps objectives. The only real threat are those small random roaming pvp corps who just kill to kill. If you cant defend It from a hand full of people u shouldn’t have it. ---
**Author:** ![Delaina\_Moody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/delaina_moody/32/230523_2.png) [@Delaina\_Moody](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Delaina_Moody)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2077 "2020-09-19T09:58:44Z")
So I can’t put up a structure without mortgaging my real life house??? > [@Synergy-Prime](#): > > The **WHOLE** point of my getting involved with this game was to put a structure up in space Yes, me too. I was hoping to eventually put one out in space. Looks like I won’t be able to do that now so there’s not point of me grinding towards anything else so no point of playing EVE anymore. I’m tired of the Devs of this game flavoring one group of players/one kind of playstyle over all others. > [@Vixie\_Trix](#): > > totally agree, how foolish of them not to ask you how they should play… the nerve of some people Exactly. > [@Janus\_Chang](#): > > Plenty of other space games online and offline. Thankfully so. Capsuleer Moody Over & Out. ---
**Author:** ![Lily\_Inkura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lily_inkura/32/174143_2.png) [@Lily\_Inkura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lily_Inkura)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2078 "2020-09-19T10:11:27Z")
> [@Janus\_Chang](#): > > I didn’t know players like me weren’t wanted but now that I know - as @Synergy-Prime said, all I have to do is uninstall and move on. Plenty of other space games online and offline. Uninstalling is a trivial exercise. And selling your stuff before you do is also a pointless exercise. Just select all your assets located in each system, right click them, then send to trash. A much quicker and more permanent process. Then close any corporations that you own (because the close-out procedure for characters is very frustrating until you do that). Then biomass ALL your characters. Done. No coming back from that, whether you uninstall the software or not. As it is, I am a PVE-only, single player, that owns structures. We may not be of a type that is “welcome” in New Eden. But, we’re also here and we’re here to stay. As to quantum cores, I have no intention of installing them on existing infrastructure. That said, I have now decommissioned one to act as a backup structure, ready to roll. I also have quantum cores ready to roll, if next take-down occurs after cores become mandatory. It just remains for me to increase my ratio of isk to inventory, as part of my ongoing self-insurance, and so the journey continues. Your journey is no long part of the game. That’s fine. But take my advice, if you are going, just make sure you trash/ biomass those assets first. ---
**Author:** ![Lily\_Inkura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lily_inkura/32/174143_2.png) [@Lily\_Inkura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lily_Inkura)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2079 "2020-09-19T10:21:13Z")
> [@Synergy-Prime](#): > > Hmm… The **WHOLE** point of my getting involved with this game was to put a structure up in space and charge. I guess that’s not happening now. > [@Delaina\_Moody](#): > > Yes, me too. I was hoping to eventually put one out in space. > Looks like I won’t be able to do that now > [@Plaez\_Gohdeipar](#): > > So the “new changes” are that if I’m not a big corporation or don’t belong to one I have no place in EVE ? None of this is true. It is certainly “true-er”, after quantum cores become mandatory, but it is still not factual. For one thing, there is nothing stopping you getting a structure up now, before D-day, and taking advantage of the grandfathering rules. If you cant afford to do it individually, nothing to stop the three of you forming a co-op and doing it collegiately. You might not like your options, and the lack of control imposed on you externally, but it is all still doable. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2080 "2020-09-19T11:04:24Z")
> [@Lily\_Inkura](#): > > None of this is true You are arguing with literal 1 week old characters, (ok, 10 days in one case I think it is). These are clearly sock puppet alts of the same someone given what they are posting. ---
**Author:** ![Janus\_Chang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/janus_chang/32/230517_2.png) [@Janus\_Chang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Janus_Chang)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2081 "2020-09-19T12:12:39Z")
> [@Lily\_Inkura](#): > > Uninstalling is a trivial exercise. And selling your stuff before you do is also a pointless exercise. Just select all your assets located in each system, right click them, then send to trash. A much quicker and more permanent process. Thank you for explaining that. I shall do so o7 ---
**Author:** ![Anna-Belle\_Joliet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna-belle_joliet/32/230227_2.png) [@Anna-Belle\_Joliet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna-Belle_Joliet)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2082 "2020-09-19T12:17:35Z")
> [@CCP\_Dopamine](#): > > We have just [released a dev blog](https://www.eveonline.com/article/qfzmf8/quantum-cores) I read that. THANKS for screwing the little guy, CCP o7 You won’t get my money anymore. I’ll be happy to play as an Alpha since my choices as an Omega has now been reduced to those of an Alpha. You’re saving me money so I can’t be mad. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2083 "2020-09-19T12:32:50Z")
> [@Anna-Belle\_Joliet](#): > > Omega has now been reduced to those of an Alpha. I would tell you how wrong you are, but your time in game makes it clear you are also a sock puppet alt of the same person ranting here, not actually a new player, or you wouldn’t be blowing up like this. ---
**Author:** ![Lily\_Inkura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lily_inkura/32/174143_2.png) [@Lily\_Inkura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lily_Inkura)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2086 "2020-09-19T15:18:39Z")
> [@Cati\_Tasha-Murkon\_II](#): > > I started a corporation for fun of it, to see different aspects of corporation management and maybe get involved a little more … > > … _blah, blah, blah_ (merely a space-holder; not comment on content) … > > … I really regret (etc). THE END. This is only half-true, overall. Those bits which are your opinions are of course 100% true. They are yours after all, so that can’t be any other way. Your declaration about CCP’s greed is interesting, given you have also found a solution for yourself - play for free. I wonder (as an aside) how much playing-for-free costs me, as a sub-payer? It’s hard to imagine that a few thousand(?) free players can add much to CCP’s ongoing operating costs. However, a developer did have to write the associated codes, plus subsequent updates, in first place. And those development costs do have to be covered by the revenue stream. > [@Cati\_Tasha-Murkon\_II](#): > > I’m getting tired of CCP doing everything they can to sabotage my plans and my gameplay. I can relate. Started as HS ice miner. Then trained in advance of LS moon mining. I launched myself simultaneously as a ninja moon miner, with LS anoms as side activity. Latter was effectively nerfed when LS ores were included with HS moon ore. Now that they have removed those LS ores again, it is largely pointless to continue HS moon mining. And pointless to go back chasing LS ores, in a prospect, after having experienced much larger vols in HS in an orca. In parallel, I trained for ratting/ events (when we still had those), with VNI being the considered boat of choice. I bought extra training slots to do that. And that boat got nerfed, just as I finished training. Being a realist, I knew there was always the chance of my being “forced” from LS/ HS/ solo play into nul. Eventually. So, I trained as a rorqual pilot. Both to be “employable” and because nul mining was apparently _ **the** _ way to coin isk as a solo playing. That boat got nerfed; deliberately to reduce it as a means of solo playing. Just as I was on the last skill. To engage with the new invasion-lead play, I then worked out how to clear emerging conduits in an orca, then mine them afterwards. Subsequent nerfs to resists and drones means I cannot do that anymore. And my only really trained shooting skills in PVE boats are … as with the VNI … drone based. This is just the way it is. You don’t have to like it. I certainly don’t. But, either way, you do have to adapt. Or not. > [@Cati\_Tasha-Murkon\_II](#): > > This game is addictive in all the bad ways. This is the reason for my recommendation, that if you do go, then go. Use a burnt earth policy. Don’t leave dormant accounts (or assets) that can be resuscitated. You might still come back, but are less likely to. > [@Cati\_Tasha-Murkon\_II](#): > > I really regret all the money I spent on this game. That’s rather sad. What was the entertainment value you got from spending just the cost of three(?) movie tickets per month? That’s semi-rhetorical. Plus, whereas I get your distinction between cost of logging-in vs cost to play, this is deliberately why I do not PLEX my account. Having got to my equivalent of “30 B”, I am happy using my in-game isk on skill injectors instead. (Just don’t tell the self-appointed forum police.) This helps enormously when I need to change my gameplay; either because of getting curious or because of one nerf or another! > [@Cati\_Tasha-Murkon\_II](#): > > I bet I can get a LOT of fun as an Alpha with 3 billion isks for a while. I bet you can also double your isk as an alpha in a weekend too. Get into a T1 industrial and go ninja loot all those structures that are getting bashed now. Those structures that you are too afraid (or sensible) to put up for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2087 "2020-09-19T16:30:01Z")
> [@Cati\_Tasha-Murkon\_II](#): > > Why don’t they send mass emails and tell their players not to bother to invest any time, effort or money on their MMO because they change the rules every month ? Utter nonsense. Lots of people invest time and effort and succeed, because they’re smart, they have a plan, and they’re willing to adapt when things change. The honest truth here is that you are bad at EVE. You have no plan beyond “do stuff just to do stuff”, as demonstrated by the fact that you didn’t even bother to put up your station. And now you’re so upset about the fact that your vague “OMG I CAN OWN A SPACE HOUSE” non-plan might possibly be more difficult that you’re ragequitting. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2088 "2020-09-19T16:33:09Z")
> [@Janus\_Chang](#): > > You should’ve said that BEFORE I downloaded this game. Everything about EVE says that it’s a PvP-focused sandbox game. If you wanted a menial farming grind and didn’t bother to do even basic research on what you’re getting into that’s your fault, not CCP’s. ---
**Author:** ![Jennifer\_Maxwell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jennifer_maxwell/32/319582_2.png) [@Jennifer\_Maxwell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jennifer_Maxwell)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126/2089 "2020-09-19T17:46:58Z")
If someone tells you that PvE players aren’t welcome, tell them to kiss your ass. Then tell them to kiss my ass aswell. I spent seven years in this game as a pvper, and I’ve never met anyone who wasn’t a moron that said PvErs have no place in the game. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126.md?page=100) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-updates-begin-8-september/264126.md?page=102)