# Question on Seeding Catalysts & No it is Not Insane to Ask **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 13, 2022, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244 "2022-11-13T03:14:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/1 "2022-11-13T03:14:03Z")
Currently there is a mass shortage of the Destroyer due to Uprising Ganking Current Jita4-4 has sell price and buy price higher than it costs to actually produce at current material buy prices. _This is Madness!_ Question what if CCP were to start seeding free Destroyers as Loot Drops when Concord blows up their Ship? 1.38m isk to buy Mats ![1xCat](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/0/7/1074d734f6d3075e32e3938731dc0cf3ebf5f3e7.jpeg) Current Jita 4-4 Buy request Orders 3.5M isk Now that is Insane, how come noone is making them? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/2 "2022-11-13T03:35:41Z")
Because Eve industry is even more boring than ice mining. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/3 "2022-11-13T03:53:32Z")
Or you know, the lag from starting making to finishing a run is significant, and the demand probably transitory, so people don’t want to jump into making them immediately only to have someone sitting on a stockpile fill the market again. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/4 "2022-11-13T04:05:35Z")
More likely this is caused by PARAGON agent demanding ships. Thrasher was at 3.5m yesterday, now it is kinda stabilized and there were last 5 Mallers for 25mil yesterday, now there are bit more but the price is still insane. I think CCP found a way how to stimulate market without destruction, INB4 more ganking nerfs 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/5 "2022-11-13T04:13:25Z")
Trading EverMarks for Ship hulls with a day cooldown, |Ship type|Reward| |Alpha|Omega| |Venture|290|2,900| |Frigate|250|2,500| |Destroyer|260|2,600| |Mining Barges|400|4,000| Wait until Emblems take on full effect. Ore Prices will jump through the _heliopause_ ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 5:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/6 "2022-11-13T05:00:35Z")
Because it takes time for people to realize the shortage and react to it. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/7 "2022-11-13T05:17:21Z")
![4-days](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/6/7/f67342fba868b3edef1df19a20a543adfbcb5cdc.jpeg) Gave 4 days notice yet noone bothers to react to Frostpacker’s related news _There is just too much free isk to make doing other stuff to worry about silly market spikes_ Related News, Prices are returning to normal and thank you o/ ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/8 "2022-11-13T05:56:21Z")
Do you really think that the average industry folks actually read the forums and specifically a ganking thread 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/9 "2022-11-13T05:58:37Z")
In fact majority of the forum posters are quitters and bitter vets who no longer play anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Bedlam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/total_bedlam/32/341964_2.png) [@Total\_Bedlam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Total_Bedlam)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/10 "2022-11-13T07:09:20Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > free Destroyers as Loot Drops I like that idea 🤩 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/11 "2022-11-13T07:31:27Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Currently there is a mass shortage of the Destroyer due to Uprising Ganking > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > This is Madness! > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Question what if CCP were to start seeding free Destroyers as Loot Drops when Concord blows up their Ship? > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Now that is Insane, There we go, simplified the OP. Anyway, here’s a question in answer to that insane question about CCP: Why would CCP give them a free Destroyer to use after Concord blows up their Destroyer for ganking in High Sec space? Might as well have said 'How about CCP implementing a SRP (Ship Replacement Program) for all players? ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/12 "2022-11-13T07:41:25Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Why would CCP give them a free Destroyer to use after Concord blows up their Destroyer for ganking in High Sec space? Gankers are already getting free ships from CCP, don’t you know? They are getting their catalysts reimbursed by GMs all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/13 "2022-11-13T08:11:54Z")
Everything is fine now, the lazy industrials logged in and fixed this rare to witness market hiccup, ![market-spike](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/f/b/0fbe7eb5aaf61778d24f3724e1445c9d961e0259.jpeg) / > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > They are getting their catalysts reimbursed I too read about this happening. I think there is a form to fill in. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > (Ship Replacement Program) This is the form name, I don’t know the link though. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/14 "2022-11-13T12:25:15Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Might as well have said 'How about CCP implementing a SRP (Ship Replacement Program) for all players? Wrong thread, goes in “What simple thing can we do to increase our playerbase?”. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/15 "2022-11-13T14:08:14Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Destroyers as Loot Drops They wouldn’t be able to board them… * * * ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/16 "2022-11-13T16:42:18Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > They wouldn’t be able to board them… Loot Drops in the form of Redeemable. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/17 "2022-11-13T16:45:29Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > in the form of Redeemable To avoid the risk of stealing loot? I’m not sure I follow. Is there any case law I can reference? * * * ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/6/1/2610ce4008b3bf34792bf6d1fcc473067bc62493.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/18 "2022-11-13T17:08:14Z")
Individual disputes about coupons, free ship replacement or vouchers must first be registered with the T1 Catalysts Destroyer Ganking Association Representative before turning Criminal in their Empire Space. The Ship Replacement is **not** concidered loot it is a delivered package item that can be redeemed by accessing the normal method. > _“Redeemable Items” screen, accessible from the bottom of the character selection page._ ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/19 "2022-11-13T17:34:30Z")
Just add a button below the “Board Corvette.” It would be called “Board Last Ship.” It would automatically respawn whatever ship you just lost in glorious space combat. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-on-seeding-catalysts-no-it-is-not-insane-to-ask/384244/20 "2022-11-13T18:41:20Z")
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