# Questioning the Signs of Psychganopaths in Highsec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** high-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [August 19, 2023, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463 "2023-08-19T03:35:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/382 "2024-01-24T15:32:33Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> Zaera knows what Frosty wants.

That’s not hard to know: he wants a roll in the hay with Aiko 🤭

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/383 "2024-01-24T15:45:11Z")

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/384 "2024-01-24T15:49:08Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> Ah, this is the two pronged, speaking with forked tongue, method of anti-gank whining. One segment whines that ganking is massively ruining the game and ‘think of the poor noobs’…while the other segment argues that ganking has so little impact that nobody would miss it. Of course…they can’t both be true.

Good observation.

So which one are you @DrysonBennington:

The “Ganking has such an impact on the game it’s ruining it.” Camp?

Or

The “Ganking has so little impact on the game, no one will miss it?” Camp?

Inquiring minds want to know more!

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/385 "2024-01-24T15:57:01Z")

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Depends on which way the wind is blowing

Makes a change from fight me , fight me … **Come to Uedema** …Oh I’m busy,…will take a rain check.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/386 "2024-01-24T20:02:28Z")

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Clearly noted and had written down no more cCats4U👍🏻

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/387 "2024-01-24T23:19:11Z")

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It must be wonderful being completely useless

You’re now as useless as ejection seats on a helicopter or a concrete parachute.

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**Author:** ![Sarah\_Olson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sarah_olson/32/377582_2.png) [@Sarah\_Olson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sarah_Olson)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/388 "2024-01-25T03:50:40Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> You’re now as useless as ejection seats on a helicopter

To be fair, some helicopters do have ejection seats, as well as a mechanism, usually a small explosive charge, to detach the main rotors so that no one is beheaded.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/389 "2024-01-25T23:34:33Z")

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Well the A Team flew a tank so there’s that 😃

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/390 "2024-01-25T23:40:41Z")

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Gankers are like the kids who expect to get everything they want without having to work for it.

High Sec gankers want the fast cash by putting as little as they can into their gank.

Everything mission running, exploration, ratting belts, etc. ‘takes to long’ other than ganking.

The only type of player that needs fast cash, all of the time would be those involved in RMT and has customer orders to fill. Orders that mining and planetary infrastructure can satisfy.

The allure of the quick grab from the dumpster or gank keeps them ganking because like the dumpster, the Orca or freighter can’t defend itself.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/391 "2024-01-25T23:43:07Z")

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Well pardon me , princess was handed some bill of rights by James so there’s that!

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/392 "2024-01-26T00:28:14Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> fast cash by putting as little as they can into their gank.

Well, if you ever escape from your basement , this is how the real world operates @DrysonBennington

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/4/8/948f0407ae42e68431899d108429d038632a38ef.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/393 "2024-01-26T00:55:39Z")

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Princess must accept me for who I am and stop trying to retrain me into something I’m not.

She knows I could pass her silly test but I chose to act outside her comfort zone!

Like there’s that!

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/394 "2024-01-26T01:24:23Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> stop trying to retrain me into something I’m not.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/2/d/82df74c1bc9be326eac6eb2974e997432c87d4bb.gif)

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/395 "2024-01-26T03:38:58Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> High Sec gankers want the fast cash by putting as little as they can into their gank.

Well, sure. It’s all about optimizing isk/hr.

How is that any different than the carebear miner or mission runner?

> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> The allure of the quick grab from the dumpster or gank keeps them ganking because like the dumpster, the Orca or freighter can’t defend itself.

So your saying that freighter pilots, and by extension, miners and mission runners (because they get ganked) are trash?

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/muad_dib_alveides/32/408521_2.png) [@Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Muad_Dib_Alveides)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/396 "2024-01-29T08:05:37Z")

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Clearly you haven’t been to nullsec if that’s the only activity you can come up with 🙄

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/397 "2024-01-29T09:08:36Z")

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Did you want to expand and enlighten, or just demean and belittle?

I omitted F1-monkeying and similar instances of fleet warfare with multiple people (cap drops, BLOPS, etc) because your earlier comments about Ganking being „too easy“ made me think you were into PvP activities able to showcase _individual_ skill, as these „too easy“ gank fleets are done by individuals.

You’re of course to enjoy Eve as you wish to, I would just be very surprised and disappointed if you weren’t out demonstrating how „tough“ PvP can be done as an individual, given your above comments. ESS robbing just happened to come to mind because people commonly multibox those in null sec.

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/muad_dib_alveides/32/408521_2.png) [@Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Muad_Dib_Alveides)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/398 "2024-01-29T09:20:59Z")

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> [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> Did you want to expand and enlighten, or just demean and belittle?

My intent was never to bellittle or demean, so if that is what you got out of that, i appologice.

> [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> I omitted F1-monkeying and similar instances of fleet warfare with multiple people (cap drops, BLOPS, etc) because your earlier comments about Ganking being „too easy“ made me think you were into PvP activities able to showcase _individual_ skill, as these „too easy“ gank fleets are done by individuals.

Well ganking is not different from roaming in Nullsec or Low sec, besides the opposite side’s abillity to respond and the mechanics of hiding behind NPC corps and Non war decable corps.

If you have only done fleet monkey F1, maybe you have not enjoyed all of the possibilties in Nullsec

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/muad_dib_alveides/32/408521_2.png) [@Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Muad_Dib_Alveides)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/399 "2024-01-29T09:22:44Z")

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@Zaera_Keena … it’s you … nice to finally see you in real life … 🤣

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/400 "2024-01-29T09:25:35Z")

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So you want to neither expand nor enlighten, nor demean and belittle?

I’m not aware of any reason to be unnecessarily coy about “pew pew activities” in nullsec, so let me rephrase directly: What pew pew activities are you doing in nullsec?

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/muad_dib_alveides/32/408521_2.png) [@Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Muad_Dib_Alveides)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/401 "2024-01-29T09:31:35Z")

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All of them, fleets, mining, industry, roaming, home defense, solo pvp, hunting, structure bashing, ratting, ESS defense, ESS robbery …

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