# Questioning the Signs of Psychganopaths in Highsec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** high-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [August 19, 2023, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463 "2023-08-19T03:35:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
**Page:** 25

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/483 "2024-01-30T23:10:41Z")

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I’m looking forward to see the gif I get now

Lol to slow

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/484 "2024-01-30T23:15:57Z")

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No, Githany is right.

The goal is and always has been to ensure that Aiko and I are the last and only two remaining forum posters.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/6/8/6682280c5ea23e81e81252e19b4fc27d28561d85.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/485 "2024-01-30T23:16:53Z")

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You and your fantasies

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/486 "2024-01-30T23:40:31Z")

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> [@Ulysses\_Redmane](#):
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> They’d gank & pod you in about a tenth of a second

Doubt.

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**Author:** ![Ulysses\_Redmane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ulysses_redmane/32/410129_2.png) [@Ulysses\_Redmane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ulysses_Redmane)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/487 "2024-01-31T00:20:16Z")

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In retrospect I could have put the words “try to” between “They’d” and “gank” but eh. I mean, I don’t know if the guy would win. He would definitely try.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/488 "2024-01-31T00:27:23Z")

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> [@Ulysses\_Redmane](#):
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> He would definitely try.

It is actually impossible due to server ticks. Besides there are multiple ways to get past F1 monkeys at a gatecamp.

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**Author:** ![Ulysses\_Redmane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ulysses_redmane/32/410129_2.png) [@Ulysses\_Redmane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ulysses_Redmane)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/489 "2024-01-31T00:29:23Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> It is actually impossible due to server ticks.

Oh I know, I wasn’t being literal.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/490 "2024-01-31T00:40:34Z")

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> [@Ulysses\_Redmane](#):
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> I imagine that is probably the case in a lot of circumstances, especially on this forum, but not always.

I agree fully that it is theoretically possible that some elite PvPer might decline to share their impressive killboard, but it is also unlikely, as any such individual would naturally want to demonstrate their undeniable excellence. It’s like running into a homeless person under the bridge, and they tell you that they are actually a billionaire - it might be true, but you’d be a fool to believe it.

> [@Ulysses\_Redmane](#):
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> I can run T4 missions

This also indicates that you have low skill, as most people don’t feel the need to mention that they can run PvE missions. The obvious conclusion is that you are a noob.

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**Author:** ![Ulysses\_Redmane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ulysses_redmane/32/410129_2.png) [@Ulysses\_Redmane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ulysses_Redmane)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/491 "2024-01-31T00:45:36Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I agree fully that it is theoretically possible that some elite PvPer might decline to share their impressive killboard, but it is also unlikely, as any such individual would naturally want to demonstrate their undeniable excellence. It’s like running into a homeless person under the bridge, and they tell you that they are actually a billionaire - it might be true, but you’d be a fool to believe it.

Well I’ll save you some time: I’m not an elite PvPer and I don’t claim to be. That said, I think my opinion on how High Sec functions is just as meaningful as anyone else’s.

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> This also indicates that you have low skill, as most people don’t feel the need to mention that they can run PvE missions. The obvious conclusion is that you are a noob.

What? I wasn’t bragging. Having access to T4s enables me to replace things I lose relatively easily compared to, say, some new guy that skilled straight into mining barges.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/492 "2024-01-31T00:53:32Z")

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It’s not difficult to become an elite PvPer.

If people can see that you’ve done some kind of small-scale PvP in the past year or two, you’re pretty much an insider. The barrier to entry is very low. All you have to do is go get a few solo and a few small gang kills. Seriously, like 5-10 such kills in a year would be good enough to show everyone that you’re not some alt-posting carebear pussy. Being an F1 monkey, bashing undefended stations, or leeching onto CONCORD mails by being an anti-ganker leech don’t count.

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**Author:** ![Ulysses\_Redmane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ulysses_redmane/32/410129_2.png) [@Ulysses\_Redmane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ulysses_Redmane)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/493 "2024-01-31T00:57:30Z")

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I have ambitions for the pirate alt I moved into null, but I’m still getting a general feel for how the economy works out there and how to move around without getting dead.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/494 "2024-01-31T01:04:16Z")

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No such thing as a pirate in null , just monkeys and bears

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/495 "2024-01-31T01:22:49Z")

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Strictly speaking that’s an F1 Baboon.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/496 "2024-01-31T01:35:17Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I agree fully that it is theoretically possible that some elite PvPer might decline to share their impressive killboard, but it is also unlikely, as any such individual would naturally want to demonstrate their undeniable excellence. It’s like running into a homeless person under the bridge, and they tell you that they are actually a billionaire - it might be true, but you’d be a fool to believe it.

That’s true if a person has one main char, but people with multiple chars might not necessarily want them all linked. Eve is a place where one can live multiple different ‘lives’.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/497 "2024-01-31T02:16:15Z")

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As long as they try, that’s enough to count in my books.

Given the amount of threats I’ve received in game, yet not a single person had yet, tried to do anything. So he has my respect if he does.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/498 "2024-01-31T02:27:40Z")

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Then those people should come to terms that the record being shown for their “forum main” represents them in whole. I have other characters too, and if I combined them all I’d have over 1,500 lifetime solo kills and enough points to possibly be ranked in the top 100, but for the purpose of integrity this and only this character is effectively “me” and represents my total accomplishments in this game; the rest don’t matter.

Unless I’m willing to share my entire roster, which I’m not, because those characters would get blacklisted from most major groups.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/499 "2024-01-31T06:22:54Z")

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Closed by Request of the Op.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/500 "2024-01-31T06:22:58Z")

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