# Questioning the Signs of Psychganopaths in Highsec **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Tags:** high-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [August 19, 2023, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463 "2023-08-19T03:35:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/41 "2023-09-12T14:39:25Z")
> [@Mephiztopheleze](#): > > there are no safe spaces Well, that rules out Gez Z then who need a safe space with political correctness in local and trigger warnings before undocking, getting ganked and podded. > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > It is caused by gankers Sounds like somebody hasn’t renewed her mining permit. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/42 "2023-09-12T14:47:17Z")
We are in crysis. It is caused by miners. Its only people like miners wanting to drive away the burn of shame from themselves. We as a community together with CCP need to stop this madness. Only by killing mining we can achieve peace and balance in high sec, so people will be wanting to come to EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/43 "2023-09-12T14:55:09Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Only by killing mining we can achieve peace and balance in high sec Mining leads to Boredom, that’s the real crysis. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/44 "2023-09-12T15:01:49Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > It is caused by miners. Trying to shift the blame, desperately I see. Miners did nothing wrong. > [@Sienna\_Massilia](#): > > Mining leads to Boredom And boredom is making people seek fun in EVE. All those miners if left alone would eventually go and kick ass in low and null, they would be so bored. They would become respecterd PvPers. But because of people like gankers they are being oppressed, not reaching their true potential. Could be that it can take few years even, but they can reach that level. You only have to give them time to get bored. ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/45 "2023-09-12T15:24:36Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > And boredom is making people seek fun in EVE Right. And for some people Ganking is fun. > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > All those miners if left alone would eventually go and kick ass in low and null, they would be so bored If they haven’t been bored til now I doubt they will be later. > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > But because of people like gankers they are being oppressed, not reaching their true potential They need a true charismatic leader to see them through the pitfals of asteroid belts in hisec. > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > You only have to give them time to get bored. I mined for 40mins in 0.4 yesterday. I got bored within the first 5 minutes and almost wished someone came to blow up my Venture but I stuck with it cause I wanted to use a blueprint and needed Nocxium. I won’t be doing that every day. How long do you think it takes some people to be completely bored out their mind mining in hisec? I bet some players been doing it for 20 years. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/46 "2023-09-12T15:38:31Z")
> [@Sienna\_Massilia](#): > > it cost me a croissant to lose a ship I’m sure someone was eating a croissant when they designed this… ![17703](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/5/f/e5faed34ceaf589cc09d2c6f8896c860b0918c3f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/47 "2023-09-12T15:43:11Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I’m sure someone was eating a croissant when they designed this Must have. It’s the breakfast of champions. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/48 "2023-09-12T18:59:55Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > was it murder? No. Something far worse. Blowing up a pixilated space ship in a fictional videogame. I do believe the prosecutor claimed that I “inflicted undue and unnecessary emotional trauma upon plaintiff.” There was also something in there about my lack of managing the plaintiff emotions, as well. I needed to do a better job making sure he felt happy, or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/49 "2023-09-12T19:04:08Z")
The whole point of being able to play the game however a Capsuleer wants is the reason to feel that way when someone takes something away from them. Either through roleplay or non roleplay. Everyone has a right to feel comfortable on how they express their emotions! ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/50 "2023-09-12T19:09:00Z")
Sure, people can express their emotions any way they want (so long as it’s healthy and within the law) But, uh, it’s not my job to manage your emotions for you. Or anyone for that matter. Those that lack self control cry that it’s other peoples responsibility to make them feel whatever it is in the moment. They blame them for “making” them feel bad and blame them when they aren’t affirming them and “making” them feel good. It’s a sad, powerless, and victimized way of living life. And that same mentality is mirrored here. Da ebil gankers made me feel bad! It’s their fault that I’m melting down over a fictional loss in a video game! They must be educated! It’s their job to make sure that I always feel happy and good! Reee reee reee! ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/51 "2023-09-12T19:43:22Z")
It may not be seen clearly that this thread was derived in respect of Mr Shipwreck Jones. We as a community do miss his wisdom. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/53 "2023-09-13T05:41:41Z")
Hah, the truth hurts them! ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/54 "2023-09-13T05:45:42Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > All those miners if left alone would eventually go and kick ass in low and null Do you have any actual, you know, concrete data and evidence to support this claim of yours, or is that just your uneducated opinion? > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > But because of people like gankers they are being oppressed, Really? Have any, you know, actual concrete evidence of this occurring? Or is that some sort of opinion that you’re using for shock value to push a narrative that you personally like? ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/55 "2023-09-13T06:47:48Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Do you have any actual, you know, concrete data and evidence to support this claim of yours Of course I have. Battle venture fleet full of former miners yesterday went and kicked asses of some null people. I was one of them and you can see that on my killboard. 🕶 > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Really? Have any, you know, actual concrete evidence of this occurring? Of course. Its nothing easier than browsing zkill for high sec, watching mining ships statistics. Evidence is everywhere, just the people supporting gankers, and gankers themselves are blind to that evidence. They want the conscience to be silenced anyway, like they try to silence me in this thread by forum flagging. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/56 "2023-09-13T07:12:54Z")
So you are griefing miners when they don’t even have CONCORD protection?? ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/57 "2023-09-13T07:42:14Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > kicked asses of some null people But did you ask for their consent first? ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/58 "2023-09-13T07:59:53Z")
The difference from High is Null are rules and people inhabiting it. Its perfectly fine to attack anyone in null, and everyone is capable to form to fight back and control the null space. CONCORD is not needed there. Everything about high sec is different, and CONCORD is there to enforce the rules that CCP put to avert the fast and complete desintegration of playerbase and eventual death of the game. At least they were capable of that. But ganker problem persisted, and its time to choose the final solution to that problem. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/59 "2023-09-13T08:01:53Z")
That’s a lot of words for „no“. Dishonorable. They’re just trying to build a peaceful player-created society, and you interloper tried to kick it over. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/60 "2023-09-13T08:06:42Z")
Peaceful null is an oxymoron. Peaceful high sec is how it should be. Dishonorable are the acts of gankers, and nobody should have any questions about it, its so obvious. They have done countless crimes, they are called criminals, and its all over the place. CCP should do more to get rid of gankers. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/61 "2023-09-13T08:13:32Z")
That’s just your opinion, you dishonorable non-consensual PvPer. If high sec is „supposed“ to be peaceful why did CCP code crime mechanics in the first place and keep it for 20+ years? The facts don’t align with your feelings. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463.md?page=4)