# Questioning the Signs of Psychganopaths in Highsec **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Tags:** high-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [August 19, 2023, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463 "2023-08-19T03:35:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/102 "2023-09-14T12:52:38Z")
> [@Maximus\_Raaz](#): > > I’m going to gank you She does have that effect on people. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/103 "2023-09-14T12:52:51Z")
What she doesn’t understand is, but is laboring under, is CONCORD isn’t there to prevent ganking. It’s the mop up crew. But we’ve seen that she actually has a total disdain for CONCORD. It’s the fear of retribution from CONCORD that keeps her from bathing herself in the blood of miners (which she admitted, she loves doing) and inflicting emotional turmoil and trauma upon those folks. So she goes to null sec where she knows there won’t be any police oversight or protection and goes after even easier more defenseless miners, just to get jollies in hurting people. And she has the nerve to say that illegal actions are legal in null sec by the virtue of there being a lack of police. > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > All forms of battle engagements in null are legal and accepted. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/104 "2023-09-14T12:56:04Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > there being a lack of police. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/5/d/95d89c101143fa4752b8496a5a5c02f6c9fe898d.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/105 "2023-09-14T13:07:35Z")
I know, right? ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/106 "2023-09-14T13:32:22Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > So she goes to null sec where she knows there won’t be any police oversight or protection CONCORD is the ultimate supercap umbrella… IDK. It’s not like they’re the first person to come howling onto forums whining about ganks. I daresay they won’t be the last. > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > She does have that effect on people. what’s that channel? LocatesRUs? I have a character with locator agents, but they’re otherwise occupied just this moment. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/107 "2023-09-14T14:03:06Z")
> [@Mephiztopheleze](#): > > I have a character with locator agents The brave little mouse will most likely be deep inside her alliance territory ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/108 "2023-09-14T14:32:09Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Rules are set by a developer. I asked the developers if I am allowed to gank. They said yes, emphatically so. I have a license to gank. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/109 "2023-09-14T14:32:45Z")
Admit it, I have been touching that part of your conscience that was opressed by you. Truth hurts so much you want to silence it by silencing me, which represent it. You can never silence your conscience! One day you will be laying on the floor crying, for what you did, when you finally realize you have been wrong and was afraid to admit it, and all you did was react with agression, like animal. > [@Mephiztopheleze](#): > > what’s that channel? LocatesRUs? > I have a character with locator agents, but they’re otherwise occupied just this moment. And another one. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/110 "2023-09-14T14:38:18Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I have a license to gank. And anyone have license to destroy any criminal seen. Which I also did few times, even saved a tengu of another player. It was very expensive, but was not destroyed, only ganker was destroyed with his alts. And to be destroyed once and for all, that should be the ultimate fate of all gankers, else this game will die. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/111 "2023-09-14T14:39:04Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Aggressing a player who is not a legal target in high-sec. The rule is to not agress everyone you see in high-sec, only criminals and suspects. That is just pure and quite _demonstrable_ nonsense. Actual criminals and suspects can be attacked in any highsec system regardless of the security status of the system. Thus…the ONLY reason for having highsec security from 1.0 to 0.5…with differing Concord response times…is if Concord actually have something to respond to. There is no other reason for a 1.0 system being 6 seconds response time and a 0.5 system being 19 seconds or so. Thus the system is clearly _designed_ with highsec attacks in mind. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/112 "2023-09-14T14:40:49Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Thus the system is clearly _designed_ with highsec attacks in mind. System is designed to allow attacks. But that can be of course changed. Rules say you should not attack players who do not have suspect or criminal timers. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/113 "2023-09-14T14:44:44Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Rules say What ‘rule’…where ? ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/114 "2023-09-14T14:45:43Z")
Rule says you should not attack players who do not have suspect or criminal timers. That rule is in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/115 "2023-09-14T14:49:37Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > only ganker was destroyed with his alts. What a noob. How do you manage to not alpha a tengu? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/116 "2023-09-14T14:51:29Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Rule says you should not attack players who do not have suspect or criminal timers. That rule is in the game. No it isn’t…you just made that up. Heck…Concord even _allow_ me an extra 13 seconds or so to attack someone in 0.5 space compared with 1.0. That’s very kind of them. And most laughable of all…your suspects and criminals have broken the ‘rules’ in the first place, so the rules _have_ to be broken in order for me to be able to attack them at all. If nobody ever broke any rules…there’d be no suspects and criminals to attack ! ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/117 "2023-09-14T14:59:14Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > No it isn’t…you just made that up. Heck…Concord even _allow_ me an extra 13 seconds or so to attack someone in 0.5 space compared with 1.0. That’s very kind of them. No, didnt made up anything, simply the presence of CONCORD means that rules were broken, and person must be punished with destruction of ship and sec status drop. CONCORD doesnt allow you to attack anyone, it is simply programmed with delay expressing the system security status. CONCORD eventually does what it is supposed to do anyway. > so the rules _have_ to be broken That is what criminal would say “the rules are there to be broken”. And then he would be punished for breaking them. Thats life. But life can be better. Nothing prohibits developer to even make a 1.1 system, where no red safety could be engaged, but CONCORD would not be needed there. Petty thiefs would run around, but those can be dealt with by capsuleers themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/118 "2023-09-14T15:04:21Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > “the rules are there to be broken”. Welcome to Eve ! You are just starting to understand it. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/119 "2023-09-14T15:18:28Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Welcome to Eve ! You are just starting to understand it. Unfortunately it seems you did not understand me at all. Dont worry. As CCP seems incapable of understanding also, CONCORD will be there to remind people from time to time. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/120 "2023-09-14T15:27:41Z")
Let me know when you get on the CCP development team…so I’ll know when to cancel my subscription. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463/121 "2023-09-14T15:29:37Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > so I’ll know when to cancel my subscription. I dont know, maybe you will not have to wait untill I get there. Its pretty possible it will happen with current team. 🔥 I mean, if I see people not playing the game say they will gank me if they see me, just reading my posts, that is already pretty pathetic playerbase response to the game offer. It would mean I am the best content there is left in the game. 😆 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questioning-the-signs-of-psychganopaths-in-highsec/416463.md?page=7)