# Questions about 5 mil sp restriction and alpha-omega skills **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [March 26, 2020, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questions-about-5-mil-sp-restriction-and-alpha-omega-skills/227908 "2020-03-26T09:01:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Akre\_Aton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akre_aton/32/461504_2.png) [@Akre\_Aton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akre_Aton)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questions-about-5-mil-sp-restriction-and-alpha-omega-skills/227908/1 "2020-03-26T09:01:19Z")
my question is simple: so, there is “alpha” and “omega” skills and 5 mil sp training restriction for alpha account but can alpha clone still use all above 5mil sp “alpha skills” it trained while it was omega state? ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questions-about-5-mil-sp-restriction-and-alpha-omega-skills/227908/2 "2020-03-26T09:12:09Z")
> [@Akre\_Aton](#): > > 5 mil sp training restriction for alpha account The 5m SP restriction is for free training; the max SP an Alpha can have is 20.4m SP; to get from 5m up to the 20.4m you will either have to pay subscription or buy Skill Injectors. > [@Akre\_Aton](#): > > can alpha clone still use all above 5mil sp “alpha skills” it trained while it was omega state? Yes, the clone status has nothing to do with what is or isn’t available when you are Omega, which means you have access to train all skills available in the game, now as Alpha any skills trained past or not on the Alpha Skill list, see below, will become inaccessible and will be accessible again once Omega again. > **[Clone States - The next steps | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/clone-states-the-next-steps)** > > Hi Clone People! If you were with us at EVE Vegas or watching it from home, you should know by now that we have some big plans for Clone States coming up. It’s time to start sharing the details of that plan so you can begin preparing for the release... ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questions-about-5-mil-sp-restriction-and-alpha-omega-skills/227908/3 "2020-03-26T20:55:04Z")
I think Sakimura answered the question, but I felt like it was worded a little confusingly. Maybe I can do better. So just to clarify, you can train up to 5mil SP for free. After that, you have to use daily alpha injectors, skilling sprees, or go omega to train additional skills. All skills available to an alpha work normally while you are in an alpha, however, omega skills will act like you have never trained them. For example, if you hit 5 million SP and then use a combination of daily alpha injectors and killing sprees to train for a gila, that will work. However, if you go Omega, train interceptors, and then lapse back to alpha, the game will treat you like you never trained interceptors. Note that you will retain Omega skills, they just won’t work until you go Omega again. ---
**Author:** ![Step\_Away](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/step_away/32/329717_2.png) [@Step\_Away](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Step_Away)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questions-about-5-mil-sp-restriction-and-alpha-omega-skills/227908/4 "2020-04-29T06:25:25Z")
What happens to skill points over 20.4 million when Omega lapses? The skills are retained, but regardless of them being available for use as alpha, they are unavailable to use as Alpha? OR do you lose the points totally and have to train again? Thank You ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Tipene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_tipene/32/249653_2.png) [@ISD\_Tipene](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Tipene)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questions-about-5-mil-sp-restriction-and-alpha-omega-skills/227908/5 "2020-04-29T07:34:59Z")
All the skill points are retained in the trained skills, but any skill that requires Omega becomes locked. If at any point you re-omega in the future those skills will become available again with no loss of points. The 20.4 mill SP quoted is the total of all the skill that an alpha character are allowed to use/train, so any skills in this skill set would still be available for your use. If you are over the 5mill cap but have available space in your alpha available skills when your omega sub expires you will still be able to use those skills, but won’t be able to train any more as the 5mill training cap applies. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/questions-about-5-mil-sp-restriction-and-alpha-omega-skills/227908/6 "2020-07-28T07:35:04Z")
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