# Raising the First Sentients and Not Animals **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [November 29, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231 "2023-11-29T18:57:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/21 "2023-12-05T09:33:25Z")
Not really, the Queen ant controls all functions of an ant colony. Some ants, the ones that go out scouting or foraging do have some independence, but barely act out of self interest, because each ant, all ants are female, except for the drones, are basically a copy of the Queen herself. Sans the ability to reproduce. Most of the time, ants will clean a colony, once the report from other ants reach the Queen. The Queen then instructs the ants to clean. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/22 "2023-12-05T09:40:58Z")
Hey! How do you know? Do you own a magnifying glass? I once had a fight in the sandpit with another dumb spiteful dude who was using one in a way that was most horrifying to witness. Too much info yes but felt the need to mention ants have important roles to do and don’t want to be ganked. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/23 "2023-12-05T09:44:53Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Hey! How do you know? Do you own a magnifying glass? I asked the Ant, he confirmed it. > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Too much info yes but felt the need to mention ants have important roles to do and don’t want to be ganked. Yes, TMI. Keep it to yourself. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/24 "2023-12-05T11:41:45Z")
Some humans still roll around in the dirt like dogs. ---
**Author:** ![Eney\_Issier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eney_issier/32/472040_2.png) [@Eney\_Issier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eney_Issier)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/25 "2023-12-05T11:47:43Z")
Sentient is not the optimal term for such a taxonomisation, as sentience includes being aware of the surrounding. ---
**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/26 "2023-12-05T12:21:18Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Most scientists classify humans as being part of the animal kingdom Good thing most humans aren’t scientists. Humans are Humans. That’s all I have to say on this topic. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/27 "2023-12-06T09:45:05Z")
Saying that humans are humans is no different then saying it is what it is. Generalities without specifics is the mind of the animal. ---
**Author:** ![Eney\_Issier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eney_issier/32/472040_2.png) [@Eney\_Issier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eney_Issier)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/28 "2023-12-06T11:59:23Z")
Really? ---
**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/29 "2023-12-06T14:57:01Z")
> [@Calamity\_Unleashed](#): > > That’s all I have to say on this topic. Or so I thought. > [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Saying that humans are humans is no different then saying it is what it is To you maybe. To me it’s saying that Humans are in our **own** class. Above the animals and below etheric entities. You’re mixing apples and oranges and insulting the **whole** of the Human race by subtracting and totally ignoring what make a Human human. If you don’t know what is and it means to be Human I suggest you refrain from armchair mind-bending philosophy. You’d do yourself a lot more harm than recommended at least until you’re able to fart a half-baked theory. But if you want to consider yourself an animal that’s fine by me. Some people think they are an Apache helicopter and others wed trees. Who am I to judge? > [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Generalities without specifics is the mind of the animal. Platitudes based on ignorance is the mind of the lazy. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/30 "2023-12-06T22:32:13Z")
Had you been watching that movie again called “Quest for Fire” _1981_ ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/31 "2023-12-15T18:49:05Z")
> [@Calamity\_Unleashed](#): > > If you don’t know what is and it means to be Human I suggest you refrain from armchair mind-bending philosophy. Now you’re playing the Identify Game. Who are you to judge? You are a hypocrite. Any human that identifies as a helicopter, needs subtracted from humanity. The only thing that you are identifying as is calamity, like your characters name. Other stories have used the name Loki, but go back and read your comment from the bottom up. Because that’s all you are doing is judging. You’re using cancel culture and replacement theory and semantics. Explain to everyone, what is a human then? Identity Theories are not allowed. ---
**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/32 "2023-12-16T10:36:15Z")
@DrysonBennington > [@DrysonBennington](#): > > what is a human then? That’s what I thought… You have no idea what you’re spewing out. You have no clue. You’re a discount philosopher, a fake. I have no more time to waste on a clueless hater. Blocked 🚫 ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/33 "2023-12-16T12:58:36Z")
Lol, you can’t throw a Blocked symbol up and expect the reader to actually believe that you have blocked them. There is a condition that goes along with it. I asked the question, you can’t turn the question that I asked you around to try and make yourself believe that I am asking myself the question. If you don’t have any more time to waste, then why did you respond in the first place? Humans and other Sentient creatures that are able to build using advanced philosophical and mathematical values are in fact above the animals on Earth that cannot. Humans who identify as animals, a tree, water, etc, and actually believe they are the animal or tree would be regulated to the thinking of animals and would be dealt with, just like any other feral animal. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raising-the-first-sentients-and-not-animals/430231/34 "2024-03-15T12:58:50Z")
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