# Raravoss Falls, Security reduced from 0.6 to 0.3 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 28, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950 "2020-05-28T23:39:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/61 "2020-05-29T16:01:46Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > I’m not sure it is null vs high, but it does seem to be PVP oriented players being willing to gank clueless hs player fixed that for you. but im ok with that ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/62 "2020-05-29T17:04:01Z")
> [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > forced to participate in this new “hi-sec fozzie sov” schedule to save their Tranquility tower. Forced? Schedule? What are you talking about? And TTT is in Perimeter which is a Small Yellow sun, which isn’t a system that the Triglavians attack, since they’ve been focusing their establishment on Blue sun systems (as far as we know). Besides, even assuming the Trigs attack Perimeter and somehow manage to drop the Security Status of the system down to low-sec levels, EDENCOM /Trigs both set up Cyno jammers in the system so you can’t drop Capitals into them. So now you have the problem of trying to take down the strongest fortified structure in the game, against the 3 largest power blocs in the game, with no Concord or wardec mechanics stopping them (because the system is now Lowsec). All of this while gaining none of the benefits of Lowsec (i.e. being able to drop capitals). Sounds like you highsec carebears are actually making it worse for yourselves if you ever tried. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/63 "2020-05-29T17:06:32Z")
I dont know if I want these EHS guys in my new Triglavian High Sec. Sounds like a no poors kinda place. ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/64 "2020-05-29T17:17:02Z")
Do Niarja next, please. ---
**Author:** ![Victor\_Medvil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/victor_medvil/32/374328_2.png) [@Victor\_Medvil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Victor_Medvil)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/65 "2020-05-29T17:18:47Z")
We must push Raravoss into Final Liminality to permanently remove High Sec Carebears from the system ASAP! [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/7/f708b00224c485624bbfc4965a65adf3ee18d2d9.jpeg "carebears") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2WTARyipwU) ---
**Author:** ![Syn\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syn_shi/32/242535_2.png) [@Syn\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syn_Shi)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/66 "2020-05-29T17:38:44Z")
Looks like the Trig Support Force is having nothing to do with low-sec. Seem to be just as risk averse as high sec players. Not surprised…remember the blue donut in null. Many people talk about pvp in this game…talk is the key word. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/67 "2020-05-29T20:10:15Z")
What? talking? Small Yellow? Blue sun? I don’t understand you due to a bunch of nouns and adjectives. IDK what CCP will do during this final Invasion phase. Because during previous phase they implemented Needlejacks and nerfed Capitals to the ground as never before, which nobody expected. Well, the Needlejack concept idea is good and Capitals required a nerf, but as being a none null-sec dweller, I don’t like how they did that. It completely changed the in game meta not in a better direction as for me. Based on my The Agency UI, I see invasions in white, blue, red and yellow systems. ![edencom](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/8/6850eb9249fe7bc166db10268f6be97b2f448743.jpeg) … and info message states “…forces … are conducting recon operations focused on the central star…”. About system Cyno jammers we also can’t be completely sure what will be further. But check the map, in two jumps from Perimeter is a low-sec system Ignoitton. It is very possible that one day both systems Iuen-Oursta and Perimeter will appear in “Invasion menu”. And I completely don’t care about the TTT and this Invasion, and don’t have a problem with it. I was in FW for one and a half year and I experienced all those limitations and I see similar limitations in this system. Looks like you are an experienced player, and it’s strange to hear from you about high-sec carebears based on what MERs are showing to us on Mining and Bounties per month diagrams. In addition, you don’t believe, I think, that like 20 Athanors per system are deployed by “hi-sec carebears” and they mining ore there with 5-10 multiboxed Orcas. This concept can produce more interesting interactions, similarly to which happened between Electus Matari and Hoggs during last year. PS. And don’t worry about TTT. CCP will not let anybody to ruin the in game PLEX/Injectors market. At least Jita will be OK. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/68 "2020-05-29T20:35:55Z")
CCP might welcome the possibility of destroying Jita, to encourage more business for the TTT. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/69 "2020-05-29T21:01:51Z")
I was thinking about the high amount of repair bot drones repairing the main objective. Most small class smart bomb builds are throw away was my guess too, ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/70 "2020-05-29T22:34:39Z")
> [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > I don’t understand you due to a bunch of nouns and adjectives Maybe you should be paying attention to the dev streams where they discussed this? Iono, sounds like it’d help since you seem to have trouble with nouns and adjectives. > [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > Because during previous phase they implemented Needlejacks and nerfed Capitals to the ground as never before, which nobody expected. Well, the Needlejack concept idea is good and Capitals required a nerf, but as being a none null-sec dweller, I don’t like how they did that. It completely changed the in game meta not in a better direction as for me. None of this is relevant, but I guess you just wanted to ramble. > [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > Based on my The Agency UI, I see invasions in white, blue, red and yellow systems. Yes, and on the day that the event came out, players made significant progress on systems with Yellow suns, only to have the progress reverted while CCP said it was intentional. Players took this as a statement that progress would only be kept in Blue sun systems, which is why those are the focus areas right now. > [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > It is very possible that one day It’s also possible that some of the morons on the forums grow a brain, but there’s no point to just speculating. > [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > And I completely don’t care about the TTT and this Invasion, and don’t have a problem with it. This statement is false given: > [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > It would be interesting to spectate how they will be forced to participate in this new “hi-sec fozzie sov” schedule to save their Tranquility tower. But okay. > [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > I was in FW for one and a half year and I experienced all those limitations and I see similar limitations in this system. Looks like you are an experienced player, and it’s strange to hear from you about high-sec carebears based on what MERs are showing to us on Mining and Bounties per month diagrams. In addition, you don’t believe, I think, that like 20 Athanors per system are deployed by “hi-sec carebears” and they mining ore there with 5-10 multiboxed Orcas. This concept can produce more interesting interactions, similarly to which happened between Electus Matari and Hoggs during last year. More irrelevant rambling. > [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > PS. And don’t worry about TTT. CCP will not let anybody to ruin the in game PLEX/Injectors market. CCP has NOTHING to do with whether or not TTT remains standing. Your statement implies that CCP has some kind of an interest in Nullsec politics in an effort to make sure TTT stays up. Prior to the TTT, ICHOOSEYOU had several market hub erected in Perimeter, one of which was the primarily PLEX marketplace of New Eden for a year or two. CCP didn’t care when the players took those structures down, and they won’t care if the players take TTT down. My only statement on the matter is that it’s not as easy as kids on the forums passive aggressively like to suggest it is. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/71 "2020-05-30T10:45:15Z")
Dude, you mad at this game. You need to take a break from this game, really! This > [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > What? talking? Small Yellow? Blue sun? I don’t understand you due to a bunch of nouns and adjectives. was posted in the ironical context as a response to this quote > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Forced? Schedule? What are you talking about? aka as a response to your style to grab some words (or collocations) from the context or sentence and parry them individually by building your relevant and irrelevant conclusions based on them. If I’ll type a phrase like: > “The roots of education are bitter, but the fruit is sweet.” - by Aristotle your response will be: [quote]“The roots of education are bitter”[/quote] - it’s irrelevant in EVE online, because in space aren’t vegetables and the source of our knowledge are Skill Books. If I’ll type a sentence like: > _“If you do not think about the future, you cannot have one.”_ - by _Galsworthy_ your response will be like: [quote]“If you do not think about the future”[/quote] - you are noob kid! I know better than you! Just watch the DEV blogs. Therefore, well, a neckbeard truly believes in what CCP Somebody said about the game development during Q3 2020 period as an eternal being. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > This statement is false given: > > > [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > > > It would be interesting to spectate how they will be forced to participate in this new “hi-sec fozzie sov” schedule to save their Tranquility tower. > > But okay. That was my joke about the fact that near everybody in SOV space hates the fozzie sov, but during this Invasion some of them are grinding a system status like nonstop 12 hours in a row. And I don’t care about this Invasion and TTT in the context that I’m not going to participate in such events as an attacker or defender. And PLEX market has nothing to do with “who’s the owner of a market Citadel”, you are right in this context. The fact that such systems like Jita and Perimeter will become low-sec, can completely ruin the market there and become something like the Amamake market if you got the point. Many traders will quit the game and attempts to open the new market can ruin the PLEX market for a long time. In this context CCP will not allow this to happen. Finally, I have a famous quote for you. It fits the curretn situation very well. > First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. _– Mahatma Gandhi_ ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/72 "2020-05-30T10:47:52Z")
Who is Ghandi and who is they in this situation, if its fitting? ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/73 "2020-05-30T10:49:35Z")
This is a generalized philosophy of being. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/74 "2020-05-30T10:54:30Z")
Very generalised. There’s a lot of cases where its proven to be biff. That aside, Ghandi isnt someone its good to look up to. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/75 "2020-05-30T11:08:13Z")
Mahatma Gandhi was a legend. He’s not supposed to be like Elton John or John Sena. He was the architector of modern cultural, ideological, political, economical status of India similarly to what Mao Zedong did in China back in the day. Due to his activity, he made many enemies, which resulted in tragic consequencies for his family. Just google about it. As a result, being the poorest country back in the day, India has the fastest grown economic in the world currently. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/76 "2020-05-30T11:10:51Z")
> [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > Mahatma Gandhi was a legend No, he was verifiably real. > [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > Mao Zedong Another stirling example of the human condition. > [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > As a result, being the poorest country back in the day, India has the fastest grown economic in the world currently. Yeah tbh, I made this political, and I feel the ISD lookin at it. Gonna snip this here, sorry fella, was getting interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/77 "2020-05-30T11:25:30Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Yeah tbh, I made this political, and I feel the ISD lookin at it. > > Gonna snip this here, sorry fella, was getting interesting. Sure thing, fella. The only reson to have a forum discussion is to enjoy it with EULA together. > “An eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind.” > ― Mahatma Gandhi ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/78 "2020-05-30T11:38:22Z")
“C’est la gare” - _proverb_ ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/79 "2020-05-30T11:40:50Z")
It’s the station? Or did you mean C’est la guerre? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950/80 "2020-05-30T11:41:18Z")
No, I meant “It is the station” What? Its a perfectly cromulent phrase. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950.md?page=5)