# Re-named: I lost my Azbel with my entire life’s work in the 2 weeks between logging in

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 18, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932 "2020-06-18T17:39:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/265 "2020-06-19T03:39:09Z")

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Vote with your wallet. CCP wont miss “The evil people who read the forums” much.

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/266 "2020-06-19T03:39:51Z")

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What the ■■■■ are we supposed to do on our Fridays then? Enjoy the sun? Please…

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/267 "2020-06-19T03:40:51Z")

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F! You had to call me out on that one! 🤣

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/268 "2020-06-19T03:41:35Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Why should NPC stations have assets safety?

Because there needs to be something to start from even if everything else is destroyed. NPC stations should remain invulnerable but have higher fees, player-built structures should have lower fees but no asset safety. Take your pick, risk vs. reward.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/269 "2020-06-19T03:42:12Z")

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If it’s ok for CCP to arbitrarily change asset safety for any container, then it is equally ok for them to change asset safety in any other container. Why shouldn’t they just randomly add a hole to the PLEX vault, or maybe add a fun mechanic that directly bills your credit card for exciting new ‘content’.

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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/270 "2020-06-19T03:42:28Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> Vote with your wallet. CCP wont miss “The evil people who read the forums” much.

Well my Omega account is due to expire if it hasn’t already. If it has that means I’d be posting on an Alpha account if you can.

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/271 "2020-06-19T03:43:22Z")

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Yes, why shouldn’t they? In the end, CCP have all the rights to do whatever they want with their own property.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/272 "2020-06-19T03:43:49Z")

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It will add fun and exciting new content to dig into someone else’s PLEX vault. They thought they were safe, but EVE is a game about risk! They can add a fun little minesweeper video game, like with exploration missions, and if you hack your way in - BOOM! You get all the PLEX!!! After all, CCP has the rights to do whatever they want!!!

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/273 "2020-06-19T03:44:26Z")

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There are plenty of whales to replace us. 😢

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/274 "2020-06-19T03:45:03Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> After all, CCP has the rights to do whatever they want, so why not do it?

They do. Or can you show me how you are entitled to any digital assets in eve?

If you dislike the changes, you can always vote with your wallet, like any responsible consumer would.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/275 "2020-06-19T03:46:02Z")

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You should be able to poison someone else’s capsule. Haha, they thought they were logged out and safe, but if you find an NPC station with capsules in it, maybe you can slip an extra 100’000 isk to an NPC and if you roll a natural 20 on persuasion than BOOM you can poison all the pods and take all the implants! EVE is a game about risk, hahaha. Sounds fun.

CCP can do anything they want, so I’m sure that’s a good reason to do all kinds of stupid stuff right? Because the right to do something inherently implies that you should do it!

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/276 "2020-06-19T03:46:53Z")

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Thinking outside the sandbox!

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/277 "2020-06-19T03:47:19Z")

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> [@Scarlet\_Starfire](#):
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> I’d be posting on an Alpha account if you can.

Yes, you can keep lurking on these forums as an Alpha.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/278 "2020-06-19T03:50:37Z")

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> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> Yes, you can keep lurking on these forums as an Alpha.

That seems to be an upcoming trend?

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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/279 "2020-06-19T03:51:35Z")

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So when does it get to more lurkers than players?

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/280 "2020-06-19T03:53:30Z")

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Meh, who knows… In “the age of chaos”… 🙄

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/281 "2020-06-19T03:53:37Z")

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Hasn’t these forums always been more lurkers than players? Isn’t it just the same bunch of regulars circle jerking in here?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Gamma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/captain_gamma/32/251718_2.png) [@Captain\_Gamma](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Captain_Gamma)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/282 "2020-06-19T03:54:37Z")

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Aren’t most people also lurking ingame too? Spinning ships in stations?

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/283 "2020-06-19T03:54:56Z")

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For the most part. Ask the ISD, there’s not more than 200 ppl who bother to post.

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/re-named-i-lost-my-azbel-with-my-entire-life-s-work-in-the-2-weeks-between-logging-in/249932/284 "2020-06-19T03:55:50Z")

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[EVE-Offline.net](http://EVE-Offline.net) would need to update their graphs to differentiate between Omega logins and Alpha logins… if ESI permits the distinction… CCP can brag about increasing login/activity/retention, but let’s see how many of them are alts/lurkers/non-subbers in general 😁

Some players have no problem making tons of ISK passively as Alpha - they can save it up for when EVE is worth PLEXing again 🤔

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