# Really? Again CCP? Invasion in SOE epic arc systems **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 14, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526 "2019-08-14T21:36:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/94 "2019-08-16T21:09:49Z")
> [@BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](#): > > But the newbies are trying to accomplish a goal. They’re just traveling between systems in the relative safety of high sec. The triglavians are a hard progression blocker. My hope is that the newbies that get blown up like this have someone to rely on for advice, whether it’s a corp or newbro chat. Either way, having people around to help the newbros will keep them in the game. The newbros that are going at the game solo will probably… quit. Excellent write up, exactly the point I was trying to make earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Miulan\_Ng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miulan_ng/32/167268_2.png) [@Miulan\_Ng](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miulan_Ng)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/95 "2019-08-16T21:14:04Z")
Capiche is all the way at the end. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/96 "2019-08-16T21:16:32Z")
And that’s another variation of how that word is spelled. ---
**Author:** ![Luscius\_Uta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luscius_uta/32/385796_2.png) [@Luscius\_Uta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luscius_Uta)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/97 "2019-08-16T21:35:53Z")
EVE has alway been about risk vs reward and ever since incursions got introduced highsec is offering too much reward with very little risk. With so much content being available in highsec there is little reason for average player to ever move out of there, even though CCP didn’t design highsec as a place where players wil spend their entire careers (and majority of those who do, get eventually bored of mission/mining/incursion grind and quit, missing much of the game’s content). ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/99 "2019-08-16T21:39:33Z")
> [@Luscius\_Uta](#): > > With so much content being available in highsec there is little reason for average player to ever move out of there, even though CCP didn’t design highsec as a place where players wil spend their entire careers (and majority of those who do, get eventually bored of mission/mining/incursion grind and quit, missing much of the game’s content). About the only content High Sec doesn’t have is large scale Fleet battles. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/100 "2019-08-17T01:25:32Z")
Removed some off topic posts. Keep it on topic and civil. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/101 "2019-08-17T05:01:14Z")
> [@Paul\_Xavis](#): > > “here is your corvette, ■■■■ off and enjoy your sandbox”. That was the best part about the game IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/102 "2019-08-17T08:12:58Z")
![FB_IMG_1565987978919](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/f/ff026f8b228647e8359ab0b0678a942726b681a2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Luscius\_Uta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luscius_uta/32/385796_2.png) [@Luscius\_Uta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luscius_Uta)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/103 "2019-08-17T09:28:21Z")
Highec, and even wormhole space, doesn’t have supers, which are pretty much the only thing I haven’t flown yet outside of test server. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/104 "2019-08-17T10:18:29Z")
Yeah, a ship that’s mainly used in large Fleet battles. Come to think about it, the other types of content not available to High Sec besides large Fleet battles and piloting / building various Capital ships is level 5 Agents, NPC Officer spawns, Gas processing for Booster Production, using Cyno’s, Bombs, claiming Sov and anchoring Ansiblex class structures. I think that’s just about it. ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/105 "2019-08-17T15:45:40Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > level 5 Agents, when level 5 agents came out, you could cycle missions until they spawned 1 in the near by highsec. After 2 years CCP declared it an exploit and restricted lvl 5s to low sec. it went from fleet content to using a carrier to solo it ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/107 "2019-08-19T21:36:40Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > you just forgot how it was as YOU were a noob and try to show all here how big your balls are today It was a damn sight harder than what a new player experiences today. We embraced and overcame the CCP maxim of "Welcome to EVE, _here’s a Rubik’s cube_, _now go feck yourself_ !”. Apparently overcoming the, now somewhat watered down, difficulty level of Eve is entirely too much for some, maybe they are lacking in the sack department, maybe society has told them that they’re winners regardless of how bad at something they are. Nobody knows for certain, but some people just shouldn’t be playing a game with an ethos that they’re unable to comprehend, let alone embrace. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_Xavis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/paul_xavis/32/152086_2.png) [@Paul\_Xavis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Paul_Xavis)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/108 "2019-08-24T06:17:53Z")
Anyone here know if career agents missions have static systems you need to travel? I’m doing career agents for galente and there is invasion everywhere. Rookie ships wrecks on almost any gate. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/109 "2019-08-24T07:05:44Z")
I’m sure there’s a few missions that require traveling. Guess you can hope for the best, fit a good defensive tank and do manual warp to 0 / jump for each gate or just wait till the invasion is over. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/111 "2019-08-24T12:39:44Z")
> [@Paul\_Xavis](#): > > Invasion next to Arnon and on route of arc missions wont help in good experiencing first 1-2 days in game. But I still see destroyers wrecks around stations and gates. Guess how old are owners? Just to prove this is an empty “but think of the newbros” thread i did a test: - Finished whole SoE epic arc on my amarrian alpha character (1mil sp) in a punisher. - Fought (and killed) Dagan in Manarq that was under Triglavian invasion at the time. - had absolutely no problems doing missions inside invasion systems (Tar) - got more ISK out of travelling through invasion systems than from whole SoE arc altogether because i took my time to loot (player)wrecks on gates - the hardest triglavians ever hit me was 250 shield damage out of 350 (completely untanked) and i was in an (active)armor tanked frigate that warps with a grace of a brick (4s align time). ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_Xavis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/paul_xavis/32/152086_2.png) [@Paul\_Xavis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Paul_Xavis)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/112 "2019-08-24T13:05:26Z")
To me, empty are answers from players with years of gameplay and understanding game mechanics. Comparing themselves to what experience one day old players. > [@Ms\_Steak](#): > > the hardest triglavians ever hit me was 250 shield damage out of 350 (completely untanked) and i was in an (active)armor tanked frigate that warps with a grace of a brick (4s align time). When I wrote post about this I just escaped from gate camp with venture (no tank) with half structure. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/113 "2019-08-24T13:29:39Z")
What a load of Bullsh\*t. Your test doesn’t mean squat. Compared to brand new players you have way more experience and knowledge on how to fit ships properly as well as how to engage NPC’s. I might have missed it but I haven’t seen any mention of Trigs warping into mission sites. Also if you’re not actually doing the Trig sites within the Invasion area, then the chance of encounter is random. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/122 "2019-08-24T14:57:58Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > you have way more experience and knowledge on how to click jump buton on the next gate while you are still in gate cloak? Does that really need years of experience? > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > I might have missed it but I haven’t seen any mention of Trigs warping into mission sites. they dont, thus they do not disrupt SoE epic arc in any way (the topic of this thread). ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/123 "2019-08-24T15:24:55Z")
> [@Ms\_Steak](#): > > > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > > > you have way more experience and knowledge on how > > to click jump buton on the next gate while you are still in gate cloak? Does that really need years of experience? lol, your selective quoting in an attempt to portray my actual statement out of context is a fail troll. > Compared to brand new players you have way more experience and knowledge on how to fit ships properly as well as how to engage NPC’s. * * * > [@Ms\_Steak](#): > > > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > > > I might have missed it but I haven’t seen any mention of Trigs warping into mission sites. > > they dont, Yeah, and the reason I mentioned it is because you made a big point of listing that as one of your test parameters. * * * > [@Ms\_Steak](#): > > thus they do not disrupt SoE epic arc in any way (the topic of this thread). Now if that was the case then those NPC’s wouldn’t be making any wrecks on the gates in those systems. More importantly, this thread wouldn’t have been posted. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526/124 "2019-08-24T15:48:29Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Now if that was the case then those NPC’s wouldn’t be making any wrecks on the gates in those systems. “you can use self destruct to lose your ship and make a wreck on the gate, therefore self destruct disrupts SoE epic CCPFIX !!” I think the players should learn to use safe fits, with tank and align, no AP, ASAP, rather than lose everything they had to a nade when landing 8km from jita. The question is not whether they can kill a newbro - of course they can, just like seekers can kill them if they engage them or rats in the soe can kill newbros who get webbed and don’t realize they can warp off. The question is, can the newbros _learn_ to remain alive, and the test from ms steak was IMO to show that yes they can, in a frigate . Now I’m not sure if a destroyer would be as good, and I think a hauler may die faster, especially bestower/iteron and the like with their 3k ehp. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-again-ccp-invasion-in-soe-epic-arc-systems/182526.md?page=6)