# Really balance?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361>\
**Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [July 30, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361 "2024-07-30T19:04:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/21 "2024-07-31T09:42:20Z")

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Yessing sir I am for to understandable you.

I don’t play PvP but sometimes PvP still finds me.

You have to keep yourself safe.

There are no hand holding mummy here.

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/23 "2024-07-31T09:48:01Z")

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Ok, what is it you want here?

You want PvPers to just leave you alone? They will not.

You want CCP to intervene to make a safe space for you? They will not.

You already know what you are not going to get, so what DO you want?

Cos it sounds like you want mummy…

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/24 "2024-07-31T09:49:56Z")

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Maybe you can fly around in hisec in a rookie corvette and do whatever you want and probably nobody will bother popping you as long as you don’t go suspect or criminal. There, safe space for you and you will be left alone. Done.

😉

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/25 "2024-07-31T09:54:49Z")

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> [@Legion407S](#):
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> mummy? let me play may game, its that hard? im dont want feed some ftp players…  
> who should leave here for first… its that frp trashes, who harasing game of other players

You are looking down on ‘some ftp players’ who clearly were paying players (flying Omega ships).

Those players clearly not only pay for the game, they also are better at the game: they outplayed you.

This is a MMORPG where you can fight other players anywhere in the universe.

It looks to me that you want a game without other players, because you do not wish to play with other players and also do not want to play against other players.

Maybe EVE is not your kind of game?

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/26 "2024-07-31T09:55:19Z")

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> [@Legion407S](#):
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> let me play what im looking for…

Nobody stops you from playing games youre looking for but you NEED TO understand that eve isnt the game youre looking for … !

@ISD_Traindriver can we pls close this thread now ? This dont lead to anywhere useful … only rant and ‘wishes’ from the op they never come true because eve is a PvP based game !

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**Author:** ![Legion407S](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legion407s/32/504592_2.png) [@Legion407S](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legion407S)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/27 "2024-07-31T09:58:26Z")

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> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#):
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> you

lets see if in near future you can find someone there for pvp

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/28 "2024-07-31T09:59:10Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> It looks to me that you want a game without other players, because you do not wish to play with other players and also do not want to play against other players.

I think he wants to play a singleplayer game.

Alternatively he could try EVE Echoes, that is the perfect game for wallet warriors with opt-in PvP included as a standard feature as well.

> **[EVE Echoes, the spaceship sandbox MMO on mobile](https://www.eveechoes.com/)**
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> A new immersive space sandbox MMO, bringing the authentic EVE Online experience to mobile.

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/29 "2024-07-31T10:01:14Z")

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I can always find pvp 😉

1vs1 = pvp  
1vs2 = pvp  
1vs10 = pvp  
1vs100 = pvp

PvP = player versus player !  
Just a little reminder whats the definition of PvP 😉

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**Author:** ![Legion407S](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legion407s/32/504592_2.png) [@Legion407S](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legion407S)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/30 "2024-07-31T10:02:15Z")

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You are smart guy  
But where you enjoy you pvp 10v1?

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/31 "2024-07-31T10:03:32Z")

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Thanks you notice im smart xD

Maybe im the one with the 10? 😉

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**Author:** ![Legion407S](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legion407s/32/504592_2.png) [@Legion407S](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legion407S)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/33 "2024-07-31T10:09:11Z")

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My final decissions - eve is game for unlifers, who have paid his subs by makiking inbalalce in game…. Here is skills or something not needed, just go 5vs1  
Good bye

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/34 "2024-07-31T10:10:01Z")

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This game has always been pvp and never has been fair fights between players. Whether its 10 people or 1 person and 9 alts, i suspect youd be upset either way. You can be safe doing pve solo a lot of people have and still do, you need to be smart about it. Trust fits that other people have used, dont shoot at other players. Keep. Your safety green and for petes sake learn how to play.

It seems you bought your way into the ships you were flying and lost. Nobody to blame but yourself. You cannot come up here and expect a single player pve game can happen when for over 20 yrs thats never been the case

Edit: i play solo but i have lost a few ships to players when i deserved it for making mistakes and lost quite a few to npcs.

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/36 "2024-07-31T10:11:05Z")

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Sure 🙂 you know why ? Honor dont exist and if you looking for honor then youre wrong at this point !

If you accept that eve is an everywhere PvP game at the point of your undocking provess the you can accept thaz you will die at some time still if you get ra.pe.d from 10 ppl

Dont cry and lern to shoot or just shut up and cry at your mommys ti.tty that some ppl play this game like intented !

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/37 "2024-07-31T10:49:29Z")

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> [@Legion407S](#):
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> My final decissions - eve is game for unlifers, who have paid his subs by makiking inbalalce in game…. Here is skills or something not needed, just go 5vs1  
> Good bye

That is one way to deal with failure: to make your own standards so you can claim that the players who outplayed you fail according to your standards.

Whatever makes you happy!

I hope you find another fun game to play that doesn’t allow other players to interfere with you! I like Baldur’s Gate 3 myself.

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/38 "2024-07-31T15:32:45Z")

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🪑 🍿 🍿 🍿 🍿

Missed the opening of this thread.

Darn

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**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/39 "2024-07-31T15:40:34Z")

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Wait a day, there’ll be another.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/40 "2024-07-31T17:03:09Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/really-balance/457361/41 "2024-07-31T23:57:06Z")

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