# Rebalancing between now and the end of ATXV **URL:** \ **Category:** Tournament Discussion\ **Tags:** atxv\ **Created:** [July 5, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786 "2017-07-05T15:41:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CCP\_Fozzie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_fozzie/32/476703_2.png) [@CCP\_Fozzie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Fozzie)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/1 "2017-07-05T15:41:48Z")
Hey tournament folks! We’ve been getting some questions about what our plans are for balancing in the July and August releases that would overlap with the tournament. Sorry that I wasn’t able to confirm things earlier, as I had to wait for some vacations to line up to confirm this plan with all the relevant parties inside CCP. We obviously have the huge rebalance of T3 cruisers coming next week in our July release. For all the details about those changes you can take a look at [this forum thread](https://meta.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/). **I can confirm now that we are not currently planning any other major balance changes between now and the end of the tournament.** A major disclaimer applies that we always reserve the right to deploy changes as needed for EVE’s overall health and that we never delay balance changes for the AT. At this time we do not expect any major balance changes other than the T3 changes to land in the July and August release. This includes the earlier proposed changes to Rapid Launchers which is currently on hold and will not be deployed in July or August. Thanks and good luck with your practices! ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Logibro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_logibro/32/16725_2.png) [@CCP\_Logibro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Logibro)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/2 "2017-07-05T15:49:48Z")
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**Author:** ![Quinlin\_Harpy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quinlin_harpy/32/397579_2.png) [@Quinlin\_Harpy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quinlin_Harpy)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/3 "2017-07-05T16:12:15Z")
I’m sorry where are these rapid launchers changes? Please dont tell me it was the post you made on April 1st… ---
**Author:** ![Creecher\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/creecher_virpio/32/23483_2.png) [@Creecher\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Creecher_Virpio)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/4 "2017-07-05T16:17:00Z")
So I guess that means that once again shield slaves have been pushed back, as well as the other implants that were scheduled for the summer? Not to mention the Sansha armor=\>shield loot rework. ---
**Author:** ![Hendrink\_Collie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hendrink_collie/32/51817_2.png) [@Hendrink\_Collie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hendrink_Collie)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/5 "2017-07-05T16:23:41Z")
aww As small as the ac falloff changes were, I was hoping to see it soon rather than later. I understand though, thanks for giving a timeline at least. ---
**Author:** ![Capqu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capqu/32/257465_2.png) [@Capqu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capqu)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/6 "2017-07-05T16:46:18Z")
rapid lights? ---
**Author:** ![Soldarius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/soldarius/32/313493_2.png) [@Soldarius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Soldarius)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/7 "2017-07-05T17:38:15Z")
Well, that makes things interesting. ty In light of the Strategic Cruiser changes, is there any chance their point cost for AT will be coming down? ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Fozzie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_fozzie/32/476703_2.png) [@CCP\_Fozzie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Fozzie)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/8 "2017-07-05T18:16:00Z")
> [@Soldarius](#): > > In light of the Strategic Cruiser changes, is there any chance their point cost for AT will be coming down? We’re erring on the side of caution and leaving the T3C points high. Once we’ve had a year of seeing how these changes work out in practice we can re-evaluate changes for future tournaments. ---
**Author:** ![Romvex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/romvex/32/55385_2.png) [@Romvex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Romvex)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/9 "2017-07-05T18:52:45Z")
A good sign, surely there will be time to rethink the rapid launcher change in order to address the problems with the weapons system, instead of simply gutting hulls designed to specialize in them. Reduce the clip size of rapid lights significantly and slightly lower the reload timer, and nerf rate of fire. This will keep their intended anti-tackle role intact while removing the ability to burst through cruiser active tanks and 1-clip buffer tanks, and giving tackle the ability to play around more frequent reloads. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale\_Pirannha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dinsdale_pirannha/32/254927_2.png) [@Dinsdale\_Pirannha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dinsdale_Pirannha)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/10 "2017-07-05T19:31:43Z")
Wow, just wow. The biggest balance problem you have is the null sec bounty haul, but you don’t even recognize it as an issue. You nerfed your own nerfs, with the expected results: Virtually no changes in bounties, according to latest MER. But hey, we are not to worry about it, at least until the fall. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/11 "2017-07-05T19:35:41Z")
Will you be watching the usage in the AT to determine the point value for the following year? m ---
**Author:** ![TrouserDeagle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trouserdeagle/32/420239_2.png) [@TrouserDeagle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TrouserDeagle)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/12 "2017-07-05T20:28:37Z")
use this time to make the rapid launcher nerf better I guess. if you insist on not deleting them then at least increase their fitting cost by 100% ---
**Author:** ![Tempus\_Halley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tempus_halley/32/6213_2.png) [@Tempus\_Halley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tempus_Halley)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/13 "2017-07-05T22:00:57Z")
What about the 700+ module teiricide original scheduled for Summer 2017? Maybe fall? ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Quaan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucas_quaan/32/372581_2.png) [@Lucas\_Quaan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucas_Quaan)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/14 "2017-07-06T09:19:44Z")
This would not affect AT balance and could technically still be in the works. ---
**Author:** ![Sabriz\_Adoudel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabriz_adoudel/32/14017_2.png) [@Sabriz\_Adoudel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabriz_Adoudel)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/15 "2017-07-08T01:07:50Z")
You could tweak capitals as needed with no AT consequences. Ratting capitals continue to warp the entire game’s economy and have singlehandedly pushed the PLEX:ISK conversion rate up something like 30%. ---
**Author:** ![Kenda\_deLagrange](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenda_delagrange/32/24626_2.png) [@Kenda\_deLagrange](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenda_deLagrange)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/16 "2017-07-12T12:13:22Z")
Will there be a Thunderdome upgrade to reflect the T3C changes on TQ? ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Logibro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_logibro/32/16725_2.png) [@CCP\_Logibro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Logibro)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rebalancing-between-now-and-the-end-of-atxv/8786/17 "2017-07-12T12:37:46Z")
~~The plan is to do that today (in fact, I’m about to start the update right now).~~ Thunderdome has now been updated to the current Tranquility build including the T3C changes.