# Recent Patch Huge Buff for Suicide Gankers, THANKS CCP! \<3 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 30, 2019, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987 "2019-05-30T05:47:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/184 "2019-05-31T17:40:54Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > still no matter what you say you have to have some way of getting ISK to fund it, be it donations loot or nullsec ratting… Sure. But its not coming from ganking, and we dont expect it to come from ganking, and thats the key point in this discussion. The motivation for the gank, isnt based on getting ISK. Its no different from donating a hundred million to a new player who has nothing. No one donates to a new player, who has nothing, and expect to get isk from him. Its all from the goodness of our hearts. We follow the Code, because we are good people. Its all about the betterment of ourselves, and of hisec as a whole. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > That is a rationale that some of you have, others are different Of course, some people are going to be different. There will be people who try and help out new players who they know have bought billions of isk worth of Plex, and try to trick them into giving the Plex to them. Just like there are some people who only gank because they want the ISK. They wont pop empty freighters, they wont pop a single pod flying through space, because its of no profit to them. Thats what makes us good. We dont expect any of this. Our Wallets are poorer, but our hearts are full. Because we are good people. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/185 "2019-05-31T17:46:15Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Sure. But its not coming from ganking, and we dont expect it to come from ganking, and thats the key point in this discussion. > > The motivation for the gank, isnt based on getting ISK. Its no different from donating a hundred million to a new player who has nothing. No one donates to a new player, who has nothing, and expect to get isk from him. Its all from the goodness of our hearts. > > We follow the Code, because we are good people. > > Its all about the betterment of ourselves, and of hisec as a whole. You can think that running around naked painted green with pink spots is important and that it makes you good for all I care. But basic rule of warfare is that if you do not have the resources and money to pay for your personal, equipment and of course ammunition you will not be able to do what you want. All those accounts are plexed obviously. And with that I will leave you to your own perceptions of yourself in Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/186 "2019-05-31T18:26:00Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > I’ve just learned that the recent patch contained within it an absolutely huge buff to suicide ganking I suspect the PA overlords are going to be having a serious chat with their CCP underlings over this ■■■■ up when this thread comes to their attention. I doubt this was part of the roadmap to higher profits for them. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/187 "2019-05-31T19:05:46Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > But basic rule of warfare is that if you do not have the resources and money to pay for your personal, equipment and of course ammunition you will not be able to do what you want. All those accounts are plexed obviously. And with that I will leave you to your own perceptions of yourself in Eve. No one is saying that we dont find ways to fund our activities. But you agree, that Code and the other gankers are fundementally different in our approach to ganking, right? You agree, that we cant get isk from freighters that are empty, or killing pods that are flying through space, right? If you agree, then the “perceptions”, as you state, are irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, we dont gank for the ISK. We dont gank for profit. And this is why our message is sincere, and why we are actually good people with good intentions. This is the very definition of selflessness, to spend ISK not for ourselves, and not in order to gain more, but to use it to help other people. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/188 "2019-05-31T20:08:32Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > rather than having to do some logistic work …and that does NOTHING to help the actual ganking. It’s AS YOU SAID, just a QoL buff. Reading and comprehension seems to be failing you. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > anything has to have a rationale or economic backbone And there you go again…WRONG. Did you not see The Dark Knight? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > No idea what you are trying to say here. Nobody is shocked by that statement… ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/189 "2019-05-31T20:33:28Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > I suspect the PA overlords are going to be having a serious chat with their CCP underlings over this ■■■■ up when this thread comes to their attention. LOL this dude thinks head-honcho big-wig types read General Discussion. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/190 "2019-05-31T20:38:27Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > this dude thinks head-honcho big-wig types read General Discussion LOL, this dude thinks that corporations don’t underpay losers to read game forums for threads just like this one to bump up the ladder. This dude is kinda dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/191 "2019-05-31T21:19:36Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > LOL, this dude thinks that corporations don’t underpay losers to read game forums for threads just like this one to bump up the ladder. This dude is kinda dumb LOL, this dude thinks that corporations care about their player base. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/b/a/eba1942fec09ee1299cbb03aa059eb0d72fb7e71.jpeg "The Fall of 76") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjyeCdd-dl8&t=2s) ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/192 "2019-05-31T21:21:10Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > anything has to have a rationale or economic backbone Has been proven already that people are not rational beings. That is why almost all of microeconomy can be thrown to the dust bin. EDIT: And this has proven that quotation functionality doesn’t work properly… ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/193 "2019-05-31T21:22:53Z")
That’s not my quote, it’s from Dracvlad… ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/194 "2019-05-31T21:23:19Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > That’s not my quote, it’s fro Dracvlad… I know, dunno how it quoted it like that. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/195 "2019-05-31T21:24:17Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > I like menthol cigarettes and Zuma Ok cool. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/196 "2019-05-31T21:24:58Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > LOL, this dude thinks that corporations care about their player base. LOL, this dude is trying to conflate caring for the player base with the profit per player metric. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/197 "2019-05-31T22:22:57Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > CODE is a absolutely mighty sledgehammer of ridiculousness, not some scalpel of the anemic bean counters you seem to think it is. Getting popped by CODE is like earning a Darwin Award. [https://darwinawards.com/](https://darwinawards.com/) 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![General\_Wulfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/general_wulfen/32/180737_2.png) [@General\_Wulfen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/General_Wulfen)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/198 "2019-05-31T23:43:32Z")
In last 2 day code, have been much more active, Don’t think it helps 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/199 "2019-06-01T06:53:50Z")
I seriously doubt that there is anything apex about you. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/200 "2019-06-01T08:43:01Z")
Given that you are consistently wrong about everything EVE and EVE mechanics related your opinion isn’t very relevant. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/201 "2019-06-01T08:55:41Z")
That was a good watch. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/202 "2019-06-01T21:28:54Z")
I just looked at an Obelisk kill in Hatakani 31st May and you put a full fleet of Taloses against it because it was carrying 17 Large Skill injectors. Rackner really wanted them didn’t he… ---
**Author:** ![Juris\_Pheonix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/juris_pheonix/32/341714_2.png) [@Juris\_Pheonix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Juris_Pheonix)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/203 "2019-06-01T23:29:09Z")
It’s not even that different OP. You could already do the same thing with NPC stations - and as a Goon, we do! After ganking a target, just warp to a station, get a free rookie ship, then undock in mass and pull CONCORD. Done! The people who seriously gank bring freighter loads of ships. Filling one with a bunch of corvettes and dropping them off at a citadel isn’t that hard. You could already do that before and the amount of effort it took didn’t stop ganking, obviously. Plus, don’t you want an EVE Online that’s harsh? This game is soft-core enough as it is. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987.md?page=11)