# Recent Patch Huge Buff for Suicide Gankers, THANKS CCP! \<3 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 30, 2019, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987 "2019-05-30T05:47:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/102 "2019-05-30T14:51:08Z")
Is the bumper being playing in a social way, arethe multi-boxer gankers playing a social game? 1. How? 2. Not easy to do 3. Scouts will tell you that someone is there so you dock and log, webbers can be negated by a suicide point. I don’t see anything above that indicates who the freighter pilot can get better when being bumped, which is my question and which you have not answered at all. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > But you already know this and refuse to utilize them, so what’s really the point here, eh? I’ve seen you crying enough on the forums because you can’t do everything you want on your own. Pointing out the issues of the bumping and getting emotive replies by others is actually fairly interesting. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Suffice it to say, there are strategies and avenues you can use to avoid getting bumped (and escape if you are), you’re just too stubborn to utilize them. I have lost a thrasher to gankers once, does that count? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/103 "2019-05-30T14:53:28Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > does that count? Ah, an entire post just proving my point about you being too stubborn to improve your own gameplay. Instead, you’d rather derail and discuss other things that don’t involve you improving your gameplay. Thank you for proving my point about you being too stubborn to get better at the game. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/104 "2019-05-30T14:55:55Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > I love how easy it is to trigger highsec carebears like this. As compared to a nullbear in an alliance that blues everyone? You obviously aren’t able to look at killboards, you might come across a number of kills alongside Test, and when PL tried to kick Tactical Supremacy out of their space in Catch, I had the second most kills in the campaign and the most points in all of my alliance. So do call me a hisec carebear again so I can chuckle at you, LOL. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Maybe the issue here isn’t to make the game safer for the freighter pilot, but for the freighter pilot to realize he’s not having fun and do something else? But what happens if that is his fun, not my cup of tea, but is this really a sandbox when such a poor mechanic likes this turns it into a boring dock up and wait it out fest. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/105 "2019-05-30T14:55:56Z")
> [@BIade\_Runner](#): > > you are also a coward for picking just defenseless targets. LOL am I also a coward for fishing for trout when there are much larger, more dangerous fish I could be going after? 🤣 Also, _somebody’s_ gotta kill all these retrievers. I’ll do my part. 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/106 "2019-05-30T14:57:39Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Ah, an entire post just proving my point about you being too stubborn to improve your own gameplay. Instead, you’d rather derail and discuss other things that don’t involve you improving your gameplay. > > Thank you for proving my point about you being too stubborn to get better at the game. 🙂 You have absolutely no idea mate. Do you know Fawlty7? Well when I joined his alliance there was a block on carrier ratting, but he said to me that I of course could because I knew what I was doing. So who do I take, a top line FC who happens to be a Legacy FC, or a line member of Test to define how good I am? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/107 "2019-05-30T14:58:21Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > You obviously aren’t able to look at killboards, you might come across a number of kills alongside Test, and when PL tried to kick Tactical Supremacy out of their space in Catch, I had the second most kills in the campaign and the most points in all of my alliance. So do call me a hisec carebear again so I can chuckle at you, LOL. And just more insulting, name calling, and derailing. You still refuse to take responsibility for your own gameplay, make some friends, and learn how to pilot a freighter safely through highsec. Instead, you love to try and attack the very people offering you advice and support on how to improve your gameplay. Such a disappointment, but at this point, very expected. Maybe one day, you will htfu for real. We can all dream. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/108 "2019-05-30T14:59:47Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > And just more insulting, name calling, and derailing. You still refuse to take responsibility for your own gameplay, make some friends, and learn how to pilot a freighter safely through highsec. > > Instead, you love to try and attack the very people offering you advice and support on how to improve your gameplay. Such a disappointment, but at this point, very expected. > > Maybe one day, you will htfu for real. We can all dream. 🙂 You decided to call me a hisec carebear which showed a complete lack of knowledge and was rather insulting, so I gave it back to you and then pointed out what I have done, least I could do for someone in Test. I play hard, which is why I expect the game to be hard, not made easy with such a mechanic. That you cannot understand that in terms of my attitude is where the issue is but I think we have exhausted this because you have your opinion and I have mine. I spent seven months operating in a system in Stain where we are out-numbered and out-gunned starting from when I was about 7 months into the game. Going out in a system and operating with people actively trying to blow me up. Not docking up and waiting it out with a intel channel like you. By the way I like Test a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/109 "2019-05-30T15:12:04Z")
> [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > ROFL. This fool has completely lost his mind. Strange how the 'community hid a post critical of Dracvlad - he must be an expert at the use of forum alts, cuz I don’t know anyone, and I mean anyone, that ever agrees with him. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/110 "2019-05-30T15:12:45Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > If you had, you wouldn’t be downplaying what a huge boon this is and saying silly things like you have. I don’t really understand what @Runa_Yamaguchi says she used to do, but is this really such a huge boon? Couldn’t you simply stockpile shuttles (not rookie ships) when you wanted to do this at a citadel before? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/111 "2019-05-30T15:12:46Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > By the way I like Test a lot. Tell me again how you aren’t a carebear? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/112 "2019-05-30T15:13:43Z")
Yes, but now the ship is FREE! It’s like you gank someone and CCP says, “Thank you, here is a free piece of tritanium!” ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/113 "2019-05-30T15:16:53Z")
> [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > Couldn’t you simply stockpile shuttles You can’t use shuttles to pull Concorde. You need Vetts… ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/114 "2019-05-30T15:17:17Z")
> [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > Couldn’t you simply stockpile shuttles (not rookie ships) when you wanted to do this at a citadel before? Yeaahhhh, and I’m sure a few people did on occasion, but I’d still call _not_ having to do that a huge boon. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/115 "2019-05-30T15:22:22Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > You can’t use shuttles to pull Concorde. You need Vetts… Really? If you’re on a criminal timer already, you just undock in any ship right? ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/116 "2019-05-30T15:23:45Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Strange how the 'community hid a post critical of Dracvlad - he must be an expert at the use of forum alts, cuz I don’t know anyone, and I mean anyone, that ever agrees with him. LOL, no, you’re mistaken. There are plenty of players that do like him and don’t care at all whether what he says is true or makes sense. Actually, many of those supporters are not even able to understand the intricacies of the discussions that take place or willing to verify whether what he says is true. They simply like the fact that he pushes in the forums for changes they want too, and that’s all they care about… ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/117 "2019-05-30T15:24:10Z")
No I didn’t say if the timer was already running…I said to pull Concord… Nice try… ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/118 "2019-05-30T15:25:20Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Nice try… Ah ok. Not trying. I’m not a ganker, so was just curious. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/119 "2019-05-30T15:29:32Z")
> [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > LOL, no, you’re mistaken. There are plenty of players that do like him and don’t care at all whether what he says is true or makes sense. > > Actually, many of those supporters are not even able to understand the intricacies of the discussions that take place or willing to verify whether what he says is true. They simply like the fact that he pushes in the forums for changes they want too, and that’s all they care about… ROFL! ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Schweinebacke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darth_schweinebacke/32/497371_2.png) [@Darth\_Schweinebacke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darth_Schweinebacke)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/120 "2019-05-30T15:36:31Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > But it is what it is, after all we do need to make sure that three players who multi-box 20+ accounts can keep having a damn good time… While this in my opinion is taking it too far, you can not balance mechanics around a few people who use the system to their advantage and in return punish all the people who play the game within reasonable limits. That again would just be silly. And once again to be clear. I am not saying that ccp never made changes that gankers also benefit from and addressing those things is totally fine with me. The only issue I have here is this: CCP a long time ago increased the DPS of all destroyers. A buff that everyone who uses a destroyer benefits from. Now if you were to go ahead and say “Hey CCP, destroyers are totally out of line in regards to their overall performance!” based on the buff they recieved, I would totally be on board with it. However what you do is: “Hey CCP, destroyers are totally out of line, so lets nerf bumping”. Which I could never get on board with. I hope you can see what I am getting at here. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/121 "2019-05-30T15:55:27Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Did you or did you not reply to someone on the subject of ganks in hisec by comparing it to ganks in lowsec and made a comment about CONCORD not being there (in lowsec) to put a time limit on it? Yes or No? Not sure what you mean. I used low sec to help the OP there think in terms of no safety anywhere, because whatever would work to avoid being killed in low sec would work to avoid being killed in high sec too, only in high sec it’s MUCH easier because of CONCORD. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > So I can use your example in reverse in terms of the protection that CONCORD gives a bumper even though hisec is supposed to be a more protected part of the game. LOL, what? Can you not understand a thing you read? What did I say that would have anything to do with protecting the bumper or whatever it is that you’re talking about? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Desperate people tend to accuse others of losing their minds and link to Pyscho babble when in a debate. As certain people keep doing this even I who is a great supporter of open and free debate without censorship have decided that the continuous attacks like this need to be flagged. If you cannot discuss things without such inappropriate content then don’t bother. ROFLMAO. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987.md?page=7)