# Recent Patch Huge Buff for Suicide Gankers, THANKS CCP! \<3 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 30, 2019, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987 "2019-05-30T05:47:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/162 "2019-05-31T13:49:40Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > enforcing James’s will came first. Cargo, drop, salvage: all secondary. Heck most of the time I didn’t even have the cargo capacity nearby to pick anything up so…kinda a moot point for me at least. Man, you seem to get it, while at the same time _not_ getting a lot of things… I like you, though. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/163 "2019-05-31T13:51:16Z")
He’s baiting you into a thoughtless response about a retarded idea one of the toxic carebear csm candidates had. Lorelei something. A self destruct button, to deny gankers their income, is an asshole idea coming from assholes who “mistake” an asshole move with “fighting back”. The assholes do what they always do. They find reasons and use them to get what they want. They change reasons until one of them sticks. They use “children” and or “victims” as reasons whenever they can, because they’re really the assholes i am calling them. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/164 "2019-05-31T13:53:31Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > You mean misstating. You clearly don’t understand their doctrine. You pull CONCORD because it makes it easier and more likely to succeed. > [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Personally I’ve never hit freighters but if I did, I still wouldn’t care and enforcing James’s will came first. Cargo, drop, salvage: all secondary. Heck most of the time I didn’t even have the cargo capacity nearby to pick anything up so…kinda a moot point for me at least. > > I’ll say it again, you do not understand the mindset and are looking at this 100% backwards. I have no idea what your mindset is, you may have a very high focus on raging carebears for all I know. But generally funding their activities is important to Eve players, you obviously would not like to go grind missions? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/165 "2019-05-31T13:54:46Z")
> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#): > > … > ? He is into pyscho babble and what not, will do personal attack rants and delete them. I have him blocked. Followed me around in the war dec discord like a rabid attack mouse. Once he was there it was worthless as a debating place and I bailed. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/166 "2019-05-31T13:55:48Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I have him blocked. You’re such a bad liar. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/168 "2019-05-31T13:59:26Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > You pull CONCORD because it makes it easier and more likely to succeed Which has 100% not changed this patch so…stop claiming otherwise. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > But generally funding their activities is important to Eve players Again, you don’t get it. Go look at the front page of their site and see if you can spot the HUGE hint as to why loot/cargo/wrecks are not as important as you think. And no, I don’t grind. I do pop the occasional Clone in 0.1 though…not sure that counts. 30M for 25s of work is nice. ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/169 "2019-05-31T14:01:02Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > Yep, one filthy liar. Man, I really struck your nerves, you had to add this lie into your post afterwards. > > Toxic, weakling carebear. Can you please stop? ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/171 "2019-05-31T14:08:00Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > he should learn to consider that the problem is him. Aren’t you the one pretending to be his alt? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/172 "2019-05-31T14:14:42Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Which has 100% not changed this patch so…stop claiming otherwise. Where did I claim it has changed? Another day and another ganker telling me that I am saying something that I did not. Laughable… > [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Again, you don’t get it. Go look at the front page of their site and see if you can spot the HUGE hint as to why loot/cargo/wrecks are not as important as you think. I have no interest in looking at that bonus room like site. And it does not matter what your motives are. All I am interested in is that ganking is correctly balanced. But what you seemed to be indicating is that you would not be bothered if the target was able to self-destruct all their loot. Surprises me because another group of gankers told me that they did it for the loot. I suppose it all depends on what side of the bed you got out of in the morning… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/173 "2019-05-31T14:16:23Z")
> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#): > > Aren’t you the one pretending to be his alt? He can pretend to be my ass if he wants, but I am not reading his ranting shite. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/174 "2019-05-31T14:25:51Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > This moves CONCORD’s focus there and adds two to three seconds to their spawn time at the next gank. Yaya, you didn’t claim any change…except you literally start that paragraph with “The ganker can now…” but ignore the fact it was always done that way before…you can’t beat the 15 minute timer so…You are just bait 'n switching. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I suppose it all depends on what side of the bed you got out of in the morning No ■■■■. That’s called life. We all do things for different reason. And it ganking is correctly balanced except if you are a greedy moron. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/175 "2019-05-31T14:25:53Z")
Fun fact: Drac has no one blocked and reads every word of these threads… 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/176 "2019-05-31T14:55:38Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Yaya, you didn’t claim any change…except you literally start that paragraph with “The ganker can now…” but ignore the fact it was always done that way before…you can’t beat the 15 minute timer so…You are just bait 'n switching. Reading and comprehension seems to be failing you because that applies to the fact that they can now get a corvette by clicking a button rather than having to do some logistic work. Seriously, WTF! I guess this is a step up or down from you want 100% safety… wow… > [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > No ■■■■. That’s called life. We all do things for different reason. I don’t presume to say why you do it, all I know is that you do, but still at the end of the day anything has to have a rationale or economic backbone, even if it is donations from others. > [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > And it ganking is correctly balanced except if you are a greedy moron. No idea what you are trying to say here. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/177 "2019-05-31T15:36:47Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I don’t presume to say why you do it, all I know is that you do, but still at the end of the day anything has to have a rationale or economic backbone, even if it is donations from others. Well, yes, of course there’s a rationale. But it’s not based on any economic or monetary reason, which is why people like you are so confused. Code arent like other gankers. Whereas gankers will scan the ship ahead of time, because they want to target a ship filled with loot and not an empty ship, code will not. They will target any and all ships. They will target pods, solely pods, which obviously do not drop anything. They will kill empty freighters. Mining ships. Things that have no value expect the value of the ship itself. Code ganks are based on an ideology, not any monetary gain. Money is secondary, tertiary. We gank, because of a greater good. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/178 "2019-05-31T15:53:34Z")
That is a rationale that some of you have, others are different, still no matter what you say you have to have some way of getting ISK to fund it, be it donations loot or nullsec ratting… ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/179 "2019-05-31T15:57:16Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > When CCP applied the DCU change in EHP to freighters the figure of 1bn did not change then. I wonder what it would take to increase this? Yeah, stop working with old data. Red Frogs move 1.5B - cause ehp now is actually high enough to make this viable. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/180 "2019-05-31T16:03:48Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > That is a rationale that some of you have, others are different, still no matter what you say you have to have some way of getting ISK to fund it, be it donations loot or nullsec ratting… ISK is not needed as much as you think. Someone occasionally may send a couple hundreds / thousands catas just cause he wants some bear corp suffer but can’t wardec them cause of war eligibility… and they can have as many as 4K members at that! Other times ppl donate for the cause… some miners fit their covetors with ore strip miners… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/181 "2019-05-31T16:24:20Z")
You just agreed with me, I did say donations… > [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > Yeah, stop working with old data. Red Frogs move 1.5B - cause ehp now is actually high enough to make this viable. When did they make that change. If it was recent it is likely nothing to do with EHP. The last time I looked to use Red Frog it was still 1bn and that was some time after the DCU change. Would be interesting to see when Red Frog changed that. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/182 "2019-05-31T16:48:11Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > When did they make that change. If it was recent it is likely nothing to do with EHP. The last time I looked to use Red Frog it was still 1bn and that was some time after the DCU change. Would be interesting to see when Red Frog changed that. About two years ago. Looks like you have not used them for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987/183 "2019-05-31T16:51:48Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > About two years ago. Looks like you have not used them for a while. I do my own hauling, well that is good to hear as I thought 1bn was stupidly low and poor game balance. I hope that continues on a upward trend… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/recent-patch-huge-buff-for-suicide-gankers-thanks-ccp-3/162987.md?page=10)