# Redus Taw for CSM 19

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/redus-taw-for-csm-19/462690>\
**Category:** CSM Campaigns\
**Tags:** pve, high-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [September 28, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/redus-taw-for-csm-19/462690 "2024-09-28T00:30:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Redus\_Taw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/redus_taw/32/434859_2.png) [@Redus\_Taw](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Redus_Taw)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/redus-taw-for-csm-19/462690/41 "2024-10-20T17:41:07Z")

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“You peak CCPs interest by presenting a fully fleshed out idea with associated cost/benefit analysis.” – I’m not sure where you learned that from, but that is not true.

“If you include something in your campaign platform, expect to defend it from players who are critical.” – Yup. I’ve been replying to everyone here.

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**Author:** ![Redus\_Taw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/redus_taw/32/434859_2.png) [@Redus\_Taw](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Redus_Taw)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/redus-taw-for-csm-19/462690/42 "2024-10-20T17:42:28Z")

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“thought through” is a straw man

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**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/redus-taw-for-csm-19/462690/43 "2024-10-20T17:58:32Z")

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> [@Redus\_Taw](#):
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> “If you include something in your campaign platform, expect to defend it from players who are critical.” – Yup. I’ve been replying to everyone here.

Yes, by saying that you have not done the work yet and saying that it actually likely won’t happen (admitting defeat before you even fight).

> [@Redus\_Taw](#):
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> “You peak CCPs interest by presenting a fully fleshed out idea with associated cost/benefit analysis.” – I’m not sure where you learned that from, but that is not true.

Learned from what actually gets changed in the game. The changes that the CSM have pushed had a ton of documentation and presentation to CCP. The most recent I would say were all the FW changes after Uprising and before Havoc.

> [@Redus\_Taw](#):
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> “thought through” is a straw man

When you answer that you have not actually done work because CCP might say no (see below), you are saying that you have not thought things through.

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> Well I first have to see what CCP is interested in fixing or working on. If They’re not interested in something then there is no point in deep diving into the details yet.

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**Author:** ![Srajin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/srajin/32/378084_2.png) [@Srajin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Srajin)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/redus-taw-for-csm-19/462690/44 "2024-10-24T22:01:53Z")

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all CSM candidates  
Fighting against toxicity is a strong case, as it comes with the territory of gaming -everywhere-

However. How would you handle a hypothetical stalemate wherein both parties are believe the other to be toxic, but only one party can really be telling the truth.

But then again, truth is based on the perspective of the perceiver.

How would you handle this?

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**Author:** ![Redus\_Taw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/redus_taw/32/434859_2.png) [@Redus\_Taw](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Redus_Taw)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/redus-taw-for-csm-19/462690/45 "2024-10-24T22:51:17Z")

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I’d review screenshots.

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**Author:** ![Srajin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/srajin/32/378084_2.png) [@Srajin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Srajin)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/redus-taw-for-csm-19/462690/46 "2024-10-25T16:17:53Z")

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What if it’s alleged the screenshots are photoshopped and fake?

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/redus-taw-for-csm-19/462690/47 "2025-01-23T16:18:27Z")

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