# Refund Player Bounties Please with interest for the downtime

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 18, 2021, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288 "2021-08-18T12:27:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_crush_mafannyoot/32/276742_2.png) [@Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherry_Crush_MaFannyOot)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/1 "2021-08-18T12:27:11Z")

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CCP previously disabled player bounties,

> [@Player Bounties & Killrights temporarily disabled](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017):
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> Intrepid Capsuleers, With [today’s release](https://www.eveonline.com/article/qi4t9e/patch-notes-for-version-18-10) (13 October) we will be temporarily disabling both the player bounty and kill rights features on Tranquility. We are taking this action as part of an ongoing initiative at CCP into the exploration of server and client performance during large fleet fights. When these features are disabled for an extended amount of time, we will be able to take a different look at how both the server and client performs. In regards to the performance load from these fea…

It was stated they would not be issuing refunds as this was only a temporary measure to last one month.

It has been 9 months & thus not temporary, time for refunds + 9 months interest.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/2 "2021-08-18T12:38:43Z")

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no refund.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/3 "2021-08-18T13:25:07Z")

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As long as the game doesn’t shut down, its still temporary. Even if its disabled for 10 years, so long as its activated on the 11th year it was all temporary. There is no time limit on the word.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/4 "2021-08-18T13:37:20Z")

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Why did you believe them?

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**Author:** ![Raptor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raptor_kane/32/281928_2.png) [@Raptor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raptor_Kane)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/5 "2021-08-18T13:43:03Z")

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Can you say _sheep_?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/6 "2021-08-18T13:46:12Z")

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Shleep

Spleeb

Shlubb

Huh… apparently not.

IN OTHER NEWS: Why would anything be refunded anyway? The isk is gone regardless. I mean, I put bounties on folk just to be notified when they die, which was dead handy sometimes, but its not like I miss the isk.

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**Author:** ![Raptor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raptor_kane/32/281928_2.png) [@Raptor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raptor_Kane)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/7 "2021-08-18T13:48:55Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> IN OTHER NEWS

That’s a good idea. I haven’t experienced the Bounty System. I hope they put it back in, I like the idea of having a bounty on my head, the higher the better.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/8 "2021-08-18T13:50:46Z")

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I loved having WANTED below my character pic in big red letter

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/9 "2021-08-18T14:28:05Z")

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Why not simply refund the bounty amount to the person on whom the bounty was placed on? 😏

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/10 "2021-08-18T15:55:41Z")

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Because this was designed as another isk sink.

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**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/11 "2021-08-18T17:29:04Z")

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Why should they refund people the money? They’re just going to waste it, as evident by the fact that they wasted money on a broken bounty system. I say they give the bounties to the people that have them placed on their head. They’ll use it to generate emergent game play opportunities for themselves and others. 😛  
 ![No P2W](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/9/e/c9e5bbcb978427c1d2c78ed0bf7e727425ef954f.png)

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**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/12 "2021-08-18T17:43:29Z")

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hmm remembers my 13 bill bounty… yep i think thats a great idea

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**Author:** ![Shea\_Tzestu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shea_tzestu/32/263279_2.png) [@Shea\_Tzestu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shea_Tzestu)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/13 "2021-08-18T17:57:17Z")

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I’ve used the bounty system succesfuly, encouraging one rival to leave Eve, after I bountied all his freighter pilots in high sec.

The refund should be provided on the simple fact CCP said they would and the only reason they did not was because it was only temporary.

Now that it has been here for 9 months, time for refunds.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/14 "2021-08-18T18:00:22Z")

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> [@Shea\_Tzestu](#):
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> I’ve used the bounty system succesfuly, encouraging one rival to leave Eve, after I bountied all his freighter pilots in high sec.

You are using scamming someone into leaving the game as a reason why CCP should do something in your favour?

Are you actually being serious or just havin a laff

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**Author:** ![Raptor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raptor_kane/32/281928_2.png) [@Raptor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raptor_Kane)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/15 "2021-08-18T18:23:16Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> You are using scamming someone into leaving the game as a reason why CCP should do something in your favour?

How is putting a bounty on someone scamming?

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**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/16 "2021-08-18T18:33:26Z")

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freighters didnt get ganked for their bounty lol, they got ganked due to their cargo or on a slow night due to them jumping in to system but never for a bounty.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/17 "2021-08-18T18:50:00Z")

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By the person above telling the victim it actually means something to people who clearly dont know that it doesnt?

If their story is true, they are saying they chased paying customers out of the game by falsely claiming that a bounty on their character would make their freighters more likely to be attacked, which is completely not true.

Theyd be attacked for being freighters, regardless of bounty.

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**Author:** ![Raptor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raptor_kane/32/281928_2.png) [@Raptor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raptor_Kane)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/18 "2021-08-18T18:56:02Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> If their story is true, they are saying they chased paying customers out of the game by falsely claiming that a bounty on their character would make their freighters more likely to be attacked, which is completely not true.

A scam is lying to someone in order to get some tangible thing (money, property…) but Shea just used a lie to make someone believe something that wasn’t true. There’s a difference.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/19 "2021-08-18T19:01:46Z")

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> [@Raptor\_Kane](#):
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> A scam is lying to someone in order to get some tangible thing

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/4/4/b44be9c0463d48f259416b012aff6290955bc8b7.png)

There’s plenty of examples of scams that don’t involve tangible things

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/d/5/dd5f385f198373889421788ee354c5c8c6d329c9.png)

Like Isk, or denying someone (ccp) something (a sub)

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/refund-player-bounties-please-with-interest-for-the-downtime/324288/20 "2021-08-18T19:56:26Z")

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As much as people complained about the old bounty system, it was better than no bounty system.

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