# Remember the "dedicated balance team" ccp promised last summer? CSM member reveals ccp \*\*\*canned it

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 26, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522 "2018-01-26T16:11:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/21 "2018-01-26T20:15:27Z")

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> [@Chan\_aar](#):
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> The last year has been poor decision after poor decision. The lunatics have finally taken over the asylum. :psyccp:

🤣

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**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/22 "2018-01-26T20:29:49Z")

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> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> A way better approach is to rotate, and make a set strong, and in the next cycle, focus on another set and so on. I don’t want to change my ships and fits every 2 weeks. But I’m fine to do so every year.

That would require a dedicated team of balancers, which CCP apparently removed.

> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> … preparing to fly AFs exclusively from Feb 13th

Have fun with those in null sec.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/23 "2018-01-26T20:58:56Z")

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Dont blame me, I voted for Kodos.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/26 "2018-01-26T21:56:58Z")

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Here in poland you can stay for 12 months with child and you get 80% salary in that time.

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**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/27 "2018-01-26T21:57:31Z")

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Sad that it appears that Jin’taan is the only CSM member reaching out to the community as a whole on a regular basis.  
The rest appear to be placeholders for corp/alliance inside information brokers and fixers.  
In other words, a typical CSM.🙄

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**Author:** ![Crash\_888](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/crash_888/32/357008_2.png) [@Crash\_888](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Crash_888)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/28 "2018-01-26T22:31:59Z")

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Players just got better and faster at solving the meta. Every scrub now got EFT installed. Every scrub can now inject into the OP ship instantly. All alliances copy whatever PL is doing. Every ship and its 1 viable fit is known by everyone. Another consequence of this game being too damn old. No dev can keep up.

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**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/29 "2018-01-26T22:39:34Z")

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> [@Matthias\_Ancaladron](#):
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> Assault changes won’t be done before Feb. They haven’t even made a thread for it yet like the t3 cruisers rebalance.

They are on the test server

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**Author:** ![Jin\_taan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_taan/32/381307_2.png) [@Jin\_taan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_taan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/30 "2018-01-27T03:31:33Z")

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I’m one of the few people who care enough to deal with the ■■■■ that comes with interacting with the community, to be blunt. Getting blamed for literally everything tends to tire oneself out.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/31 "2018-01-27T03:41:42Z")

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And we definitely appreciate it, Jin’taan.

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**Author:** ![The\_Judge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_judge/32/140769_2.png) [@The\_Judge](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Judge)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/32 "2018-01-27T04:04:10Z")

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I said this in the meeting where the CSM was promosed a balance team, and I’ll say it here. “I really hope this isn’t a plan to calm the playerbase down and then not do anything with this team once the news cycle changes to something else to be mad about”. Let’s just say I wasn’t surprised.

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Sebiestar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_sebiestar/32/502522_2.png) [@Mina\_Sebiestar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Sebiestar)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/34 "2018-01-27T04:17:00Z")

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Regardless of “its hard” seems you are “few”(only one) so far that is more than just an echo chamber from how many of you?

Community is what it is “you made your bed” and i don’t think it will go anywhere but worse each day coming.

Thanks for the info.

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**Author:** ![Rhivre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhivre/32/358488_2.png) [@Rhivre](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhivre)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/35 "2018-01-27T10:38:27Z")

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Or in fact, any of the countries which gives very similar maternity leave (I do not wish to alarm you, but, a lot of these countries also give paternity leave).

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**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/36 "2018-01-27T10:40:20Z")

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mkay, i’m living in country where paternity leave is allowed 😇🕶

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/37 "2018-01-27T10:41:39Z")

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In the UK, 38% of people believe that removing these rights and ones like them are a good thing too.

People can often suck.

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**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/38 "2018-01-27T10:57:58Z")

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Nobody in the UK general public believes in removing such rights, bear in mind that many of the UK’s employment and maternity rights exceed the minimums set by the EU.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/39 "2018-01-27T11:01:02Z")

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And how long do you think that will last? If you think more than 5 seconds after THE EVENT then youll be believing in 350m too?

Edit: This is politics and I shouldnt have brought it up.

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**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/40 "2018-01-27T11:07:17Z")

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Don’t worry, I’m not the kind of person who descends into insults if someone has a different point of view 😃

Eroding any of those rights would be political suicide. In response to to original disbelief at maternity leave I’ll just point out my wife had 12 months paid leave, and got a bonus for going back earlier. I love living in a progressive society.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/42 "2018-01-27T11:10:04Z")

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I totally agree with your sentiment, I just have seen the current shower do things in the past (and present) which lead me to believe that we will no longer have a progressive society. If we ever really did. Of course, my own particular geographical placement within this scenario makes things even more up in the air.

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**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/43 "2018-01-27T11:13:05Z")

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I’m reasonably convinced that the kind of person who wants to go into politics is usually the last kind of person who should be allowed to 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remember-the-dedicated-balance-team-ccp-promised-last-summer-csm-member-reveals-ccp-canned-it/53522/44 "2018-01-27T11:13:57Z")

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I would definately agree there.

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