# Remove suicide ganking from high sec **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining & Extraction\ **Created:** [October 24, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361 "2019-10-24T04:05:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kala\_Vaharla\_Vaille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kala_vaharla_vaille/32/172223_2.png) [@Kala\_Vaharla\_Vaille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kala_Vaharla_Vaille)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/24 "2019-11-28T22:06:43Z")
Ive been playing for almost ten years ( ? ) Im also i hi sec care bear. Ganking is good for the game. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/25 "2019-11-28T23:52:25Z")
Please learn to play…or go mine in X4. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/26 "2019-11-29T05:44:04Z")
Well, looks like an anti-tanked hulk has been removed from high sec… ---
**Author:** ![Stalter\_Arjar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stalter_arjar/32/411988_2.png) [@Stalter\_Arjar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stalter_Arjar)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/27 "2019-11-29T11:39:47Z")
Just no. I mine, I gas huff, I haul, among other things. The risk is what makes the game interesting, it would be pointless\* without it. \*Disregarding the fact that all games are pointless unless it teaches you something, EVE is the best learning experience u’ll get for indulging in a distraction activity. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/28 "2019-11-29T14:47:33Z")
Games are not pointless even if they don’t teach you something, games are entertainment, actually life is pointless without fun if anything. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dangerous\_Daswe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dangerous_daswe/32/378342_2.png) [@Dangerous\_Daswe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dangerous_Daswe)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/29 "2019-11-29T15:16:23Z")
There not many bigger care bears than me, Christ I got up at Eve London’s AMA and told people I did missions for 13 years. But no suicide ganking is a part of the game and shouldn’t be removed. Nobody should be 100% safe, get ganked then take it on the chin and adapt. Make the other guy a more tempting target. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/30 "2019-11-29T16:44:53Z")
or just fit some damn tank … or just don’t fly a hulk in HS … Or I don’t know, go play in backwater … or be active and warp away when reds enter the system… All in all, so many ways to be safer, and yet he wants to fool people into thinking gankers are the issue… ---
**Author:** ![Malachite\_Cane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malachite_cane/32/172396_2.png) [@Malachite\_Cane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malachite_Cane)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/31 "2019-11-29T18:04:06Z")
So you don’t want to pvp in a pvp game? Why not take your ass into the bluezone then … All this threads whining about not being able to mindlessly mine and in other bot-aspirant activity’s . Things you can do to be harder to **gank** ; \*Get some space friends - this is a massive multiplayer online its meant to be played together. \*Don’t use a paper-plane close to high traffic space \*Fit tank and use ecm-drone \*Be active use your onboard scanners. \*If you cant make friends make a alt and put him in a ecm/shield repper boat. \*Read Code there are lot of good tips in there. \*If attacked overload and pray to BOB/James \*And lastly don’t undock what you cant lose. Eve is about to find a way to do what you want not to be served everything on a plate. If you want some ingame practice on how much work there is behind every gank you are more then welcome to join me, free ships on me. ---
**Author:** ![ahleck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahleck/32/172432_2.png) [@ahleck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ahleck)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/32 "2019-11-29T21:55:40Z")
Each security status has kind of a different concord response time. They respond faster in 1.0 than they do in .5. What if, a corporation (or a single player) could bribe concord for better protection and tier it? Pay \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ isk for a response time ~ = 1.0 sec Pay \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ isk for a response time ~ = .9 sec Pay \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ isk for a response time ~ = .8 sec Pay \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ isk for a response time ~ = .7 sec etc… What about a re-work of insurance… “Hi miner, i see you want to ensure your hull and your cargo” well, to do so will cost\_\_\_" So this doesnt get rid of ganking but instead, makes the risk for gankers a little more… “can your Code catalyst kill before concord arrives in a .5 sec, as if it were 1.0 sec” It makes allows miners to mine, and perhaps a little more “Safety” ---
**Author:** ![Corey\_Fumimasa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corey_fumimasa/32/402866_2.png) [@Corey\_Fumimasa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corey_Fumimasa)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/33 "2019-11-30T11:04:23Z")
Welcome to the community Dravis! ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/34 "2019-11-30T11:16:28Z")
> [@ahleck](#): > > makes the risk for gankers a little more Why is the onus never on the miner to just fit their ship correctly and fly it like they should? ---
**Author:** ![TheIskDoubler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theiskdoubler/32/172529_2.png) [@TheIskDoubler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheIskDoubler)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/35 "2019-11-30T11:48:38Z")
How will I sleep in peace at night if I dont kill miners?? ---
**Author:** ![Theodarum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theodarum/32/479608_2.png) [@Theodarum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theodarum)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/36 "2019-11-30T17:25:40Z")
Terrorism will always exist, no matter where you are or where you from. ---
**Author:** ![Malachite\_Cane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malachite_cane/32/172396_2.png) [@Malachite\_Cane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malachite_Cane)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/37 "2019-11-30T17:41:36Z")
What makes this terrorism? Some gankers do it for profit, but the most honorable are agents of James and will police his legaly claimed space. ---
**Author:** ![Theodarum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theodarum/32/479608_2.png) [@Theodarum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theodarum)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/38 "2019-11-30T17:52:39Z")
Gankers are hi sec terrorist and they should be punished for murdering innocent people. ---
**Author:** ![Malachite\_Cane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malachite_cane/32/172396_2.png) [@Malachite\_Cane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malachite_Cane)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/39 "2019-11-30T18:44:06Z")
So it sounds that you dont think Concord is doing enough? A killersquad that just lash out with violence! Where is the judgment system? Innocent until proven guilty, everybody should have the right to defend themself in a court, before they are executed on the whim of totalitarian fascists “police” force. ---
**Author:** ![Karynn\_Denton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karynn_denton/32/468090_2.png) [@Karynn\_Denton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karynn_Denton)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/40 "2019-11-30T21:12:26Z")
> [@Theodarum](#): > > Gankers are hi sec terrorist and they should be punished for murdering innocent people. Um, they are! Or did you miss the bit where CONCORD blows their ships up? ---
**Author:** ![Theodarum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theodarum/32/479608_2.png) [@Theodarum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theodarum)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/41 "2019-11-30T21:33:53Z")
Yes but we need more stringent security measures, since criminals do it, again and again. They can’t stop. They should be permanently banned from hi sec. ---
**Author:** ![Karynn\_Denton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karynn_denton/32/468090_2.png) [@Karynn\_Denton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karynn_Denton)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/42 "2019-11-30T21:36:53Z")
> [@Theodarum](#): > > Yes but we need more stringent security measures Then secure yourself more stringently. You have the tools to do so - use them. ---
**Author:** ![Theodarum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theodarum/32/479608_2.png) [@Theodarum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theodarum)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/43 "2019-11-30T21:40:27Z")
Well, it’s a huge problem for new players and CCP should consider it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361.md?page=3)