# Remove suicide ganking from high sec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361>\
**Category:** Mining & Extraction\
**Created:** [October 24, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361 "2019-10-24T04:05:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/64 "2019-12-23T16:39:45Z")

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> [@Dravis\_Lanson](#):
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> I’m sick of no life morons from Code ruining the game for those of us who just want to mine in peace.

The irony.

> [@Dravis\_Lanson](#):
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> I’m sick of no life morons from Code ruining the game for those of us who have even less life.

Quite the projection.

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**Author:** ![Trololol\_Sisjan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trololol_sisjan/32/179809_2.png) [@Trololol\_Sisjan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trololol_Sisjan)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/65 "2020-01-13T20:12:11Z")

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Nobody buys my ■■■■ in Jita!  
Add more Suicide Ganking in Hi Sec!  
like that triglavians on the gate…

add more accidental deathes!!

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Raid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_raid/32/217870_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Raid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Raid)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/66 "2020-01-16T14:30:40Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/6/9639d63208c968d7b324039e2dcce7a1e424ea51.jpeg)

Holy ■■■■ I’m glad I scrolled down! This made my day lol.

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**Author:** ![Maverick\_Destro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maverick_destro/32/167095_2.png) [@Maverick\_Destro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maverick_Destro)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/68 "2020-01-16T17:45:43Z")

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> [@Dravis\_Lanson](#):
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> Suicide ganking should not be possible in high sec. I’m sick of no life morons from Code ruining the game for those of us who just want to mine in peace. Please make suicide ganking impossible.

Nah. Working as intended. Fit a better tank and stop worrying about yield so much.

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**Author:** ![Lonely\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lonely_man/32/176026_2.png) [@Lonely\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lonely_Man)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/69 "2020-01-16T18:47:02Z")

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No, learn to not afk, fit a tank and mine smarter

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/70 "2020-01-16T22:39:23Z")

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> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#):
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> This means you need to travel about an extra 1km out before initiating warp to avoid otherwise when you’re not paying attention you might be already stuck inside the stations bump radius and the warp will never complete.

Just a tip: use insta-warp BMs outside stations you visit often…avoids this whole issue

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**Author:** ![VerdeOso](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verdeoso/32/406444_2.png) [@VerdeOso](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/VerdeOso)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/72 "2020-01-17T22:49:37Z")

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Not going to happen. Just get in proc/skiff and maintain situational awareness. Plus, watch local and d-scan. In addition, place known gankers on your contact list tagged red and blinking. Easy-peasy

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**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/73 "2020-01-17T23:55:53Z")

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Calm down, miner.

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**Author:** ![Sienna\_Khalifa1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_khalifa1/32/292815_2.png) [@Sienna\_Khalifa1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Khalifa1)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/74 "2020-01-18T21:12:22Z")

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miner here. OP your complain would have some weight if maybe, you would have been actually giving a fight or something, but getting ganked while flying a yield fitted Hulk with mining drones shows your true face in this matter. gankers only go for juicy and easy to kill targets because otherwise they dont have the balls to attack something that fights back (not profitable at all).

i have lost ventures with better tank than yours while actually trying and despite loosing the ship i still found a way around. your loss furtherly cements why your post has 0 validation and should be deleted ASAP. you can cry all you want but fitting for maximum profit means you have limitations and danger closeby, if you cant cope with that then you should consider your approach to the activity and refit, not QQ on the forums blaming the gankers for your own mistake.

perhaps you should consider flying a properly brick tanked Skiff instead with combat drones loaded? you are Omega so you should have no excuses, period.

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**Author:** ![Fargin\_Eishole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fargin_eishole/32/195897_2.png) [@Fargin\_Eishole](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fargin_Eishole)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/76 "2020-04-05T17:18:53Z")

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Suicide ganking has always been part of Eve and always should be. However, A simple fix won’t rid ganking but surpress it a bit when insurance payouts are denied if you get blown up due to “insurance fraud” (e.g. violating Concord law).

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/77 "2020-04-05T17:32:20Z")

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Welcome back, Rip Van Winkle.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/78 "2020-04-05T18:39:13Z")

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I had that name. I forgot the accountname and password.

☹

I don’t get the joke, btw.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/79 "2020-04-05T18:40:59Z")

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Rip Van Winkle was a story about a guy that fell asleep for 20 years and woke up to a world he hardly recognized. Fargin was proposing a change that was implemented a long time ago. Therefore… funny. Ha ha.

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**Author:** ![StarrBucc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starrbucc/32/200928_2.png) [@StarrBucc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/StarrBucc)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/80 "2020-05-06T03:05:58Z")

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> [@Kebbert\_Tsukino](#):
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> I think you should look into any of the other space-themed games out there, which might suit what you are looking for better. Danger in all parts of space is a core tenet of EVE Online’s personality. High Security does not equal Omnipo

EVE is not for you … move along

(notices the necro too late)

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/82 "2020-05-06T05:18:11Z")

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A well fit ship…

🤡

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/83 "2020-05-06T15:31:03Z")

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> [@Dravis\_Lanson](#):
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> Suicide ganking should not be possible in high sec. I’m sick of no life morons from Code ruining the game for those of us who just want to mine in peace. Please make suicide ganking impossible.

Suicide ganking will always be possible, it’s part of EVE. But I agree with you that suicide ganking should be harder than it currently is.

As a start you could put some tank on your Exhumer. It only took them 7023 damage to kill your 268 Million ISK ship. 🤔

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/84 "2020-05-06T16:25:40Z")

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Hulks are paper-thin. No amount of tank will save it if someone wants to gank you. Either fit for tank or fit for yield. If you try to fit for both, then you will fail at both…

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/85 "2020-05-06T16:31:37Z")

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Perhaps they need to bring logistics and EWAR ships.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/86 "2020-05-06T19:00:31Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> Hulks are paper-thin. No amount of tank will save it if someone wants to gank you. Either fit for tank or fit for yield. If you try to fit for both, then you will fail at both…

But if you don’t fit mid slots or rigs at all, such as in the killmail linked above, you fail at everything. Even if he’s going for max yield, he could speed up his mining with some faster align/warp speed rigs. And faster align rigs could’ve saved him if he were paying attention.

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**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/87 "2020-05-06T21:09:10Z")

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1. Don’t solo mine in a Hulk. It has high yield but piss all ore hold. You’ll waste so much time hauling.
2. Hulk has no tank.
3. Either of the other exhumers has better tank. Mackinaw has a big ore hold and will likely get you better m3ph solo mining.
4. Set known ganker corps and alliances to negative standings.
5. Watch local.
6. Learn to DScan.

Ganking is super avoidable. Anyone can get caught out, but you can definitely set yourself up for success.

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