# Remove suicide ganking from high sec **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining & Extraction\ **Created:** [October 24, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361 "2019-10-24T04:05:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Far\_Wanderer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/far_wanderer/32/452265_2.png) [@Far\_Wanderer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Far_Wanderer)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/130 "2020-06-03T03:15:01Z")
> [@Dravis\_Lanson](#): > > Please make suicide ganking impossible. No. Learn to fleet and fight instead. Or find the quiet highsec systems that CODE never visits. Or drop in on a lowsec system bordering highsec and mine away. Or make an alt, join CODE and learn to practice the art of sabotage. Or find a lowsec mining corp and apply to join. Etc… ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/131 "2020-06-03T03:18:41Z")
> [@Far\_Wanderer](#): > > Or make an alt, join CODE and learn to practice the art of sabotage. The Code always wins. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/132 "2020-06-03T03:54:27Z")
![GLCXWax](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/4/47a9f0f56f5a74d735df4ad7b93659661c27ad48.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/133 "2020-06-03T03:58:42Z")
I need this in my life. Just wear it to random events and see how many EVE players I run into… ![Always](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/6/264127e30a4b469f8be4b468cb48b82baa729a73.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/134 "2020-06-03T04:09:03Z")
Does that exist? ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/135 "2020-06-03T04:11:23Z")
Well, it did 5 minutes ago. Figures. I found it on google images and there’s a website for it but now I can’t find it. I’ll see if I can find it again… ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/136 "2020-06-03T04:17:16Z")
Found it… [https://www.zazzle.com/s/james+315](https://www.zazzle.com/s/james+315) ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/137 "2020-06-03T04:22:22Z")
![James 315 Shirt](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/7/c7b4483b43d5230d2d77c0fdf5c74be0df6c46d5.png) ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/138 "2020-06-03T14:06:38Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > There are protected 1.0 areas that gankers are not supposed to operate in. See, CCP cares. Not exactly. What is prohibited there is ganking of rookie players. That 5 years old orca pilot hiding there is fair game. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > What is the negative that you can’t get an evidence of ? Can you prove that you are NOT a troll? ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/139 "2020-06-03T14:38:42Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > Not exactly. What is prohibited there is ganking of rookie players. That 5 years old orca pilot hiding there is fair game. I stand corrected…Ty… ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/140 "2020-06-03T15:30:17Z")
My miner senses detected a disturbance in the force. Another highsec ganking removal thread yay. And the usual suspects brawling about on the floor throwing quotes at each other. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/141 "2020-06-03T16:49:16Z")
> [@Dravis\_Lanson](#): > > Suicide Mine in peace? You mean afk kind of peace ? ---
**Author:** ![Vasalinda\_Fingerbang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vasalinda_fingerbang/32/212910_2.png) [@Vasalinda\_Fingerbang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vasalinda_Fingerbang)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/142 "2020-07-13T01:54:06Z")
You’re answer is to find a different game? Seriously, what is wrong with you? ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/143 "2020-07-13T02:02:54Z")
> [@Vasalinda\_Fingerbang](#): > > Seriously, what is wrong with you? Millennialgitis ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/144 "2020-07-13T07:34:53Z")
Ending the ability to gank in High Sec would not end Eve Online. More ships are lost to Incursions, the Invasions and Mission Running. The problem with Code is that Code thinks it is the Space Police. They believe that if you are violating some fictitious law or rule that is baseless to begin with then will gank you as they try to make it appear it was your fault for playing the way that you do for being the reason they ganked you in the first place. Basically, Code wants you to play Eve Online the way that they want you too or they will continue to gank you until leave the game or buy one of their Comode Permits for mining. Every once in a while, when they find you they will ask you if you are playing the game that fits their manner of play, no afk, no auto-piloting, etc. If you don’t accept their style of game play as your own, then they will gank you again. Code will then whine about people trying to interrupt their own style of play which is still nothing more than trying to make people play the game by the style or manner that Code wants people to play. I still don’t see why Code hasn’t moved into Null Sec on permanent basis. They have more than enough ISK and gank ships to do so. The problem with Code moving into Null permanently is that they would soon find themselves outgunned and matched as Null Empires come to crush them for their insane piles of wealth they keep in NPC stations. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/145 "2020-07-13T07:53:44Z")
Code is a pretext to content. It doesn’t matter how sociopathic their particular conceit is; they’re engaging is a play style that has been a deliberate inclusion in Eve since the beginning and they absolutely do not have to justify it. Their protection racket is also behaviour within the rules, just like every scammer in Jita local. And removing suicide ganking has significant consequences. Not least of which would be the impact on the market. Ganking is a stimulus. You don’t have to like high sec ganking (I certainly don’t) but it’s not going anywhere and you already have means to stay safe. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/146 "2020-07-13T08:43:20Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > If you don’t accept their style of game play as your own, then they will gank you again. …and you are demanding people except your play-style. This is a conflict driver and what makes Eve (or any game) great. If you can’t deal with that then you are in for a ruff time here… CODE hasn’t moved to NS because that’s not their mandate…believing otherwise just means you don’t really know their _modus operandi_…which you should if you want to “beat” them. ---
**Author:** ![Phelan\_Kheldian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phelan_kheldian/32/450826_2.png) [@Phelan\_Kheldian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phelan_Kheldian)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/147 "2020-07-13T14:03:50Z")
Beating CODE. is not hard. Tank your mining ship, set CODE. to orange so you can see them in local, and don’t mine within 5 jumps of major trading hubs. Its pretty damn simple. I mine in hi-sec on my alt account all the time and I’ve never once been ganked… likely because I’ve done all of the above. As for hi-sec ganking: no, it shouldn’t be removed. While I find it to be low brow content, that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be in the game. Nothing in Eve should be without risk… **nothing**. If you fall prey to hi sec ganking you likely made a mistake. You don’t have an insta-undock warp point, you didn’t watch for obvious hi-sec gankers, you were auto-piloting, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/148 "2020-07-13T14:59:15Z")
> [@Phelan\_Kheldian](#): > > Tank your mining ship It’s a bit more complex than this. It might work for a Proc or Skiff reliably (so long as they don’t have 4-5 ships) but you cannot fit enough tank on a Hulk to save it in a 0.5 security system. The best defence is to not be in the belt to gank. Watch local; be aligned. > [@Phelan\_Kheldian](#): > > set CODE. to orange so you can see them in local This is 👌🏻 Look on skill for other groups ganking miners and do the same for those corps and alliances. Some will be in NPC corps so add the character. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361/149 "2020-07-13T14:59:43Z")
I fly around lowsec a lot. It is amazing - almost nobody uses Insta-undock. Same with highsec, of course. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-suicide-ganking-from-high-sec/197361.md?page=8)