# Remove titan and supers from low sec allow only dreads and carriers **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** low-sec\ **Created:** [February 14, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503 "2021-02-14T16:20:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/1 "2021-02-14T16:20:10Z")
_Poll ([view on site](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/1))_ If you voted yes: _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/1))_ if you voted no: _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/1))_ ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/2 "2021-02-14T16:20:37Z")
Remove spaceships completely, who undocks anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/3 "2021-02-14T16:29:39Z")
your reasons in the follow up questions don’t match my reasoning. If you can afford a super or titan, you should be able to fly it anywhere. Lowsec is null-lite. if you dont want to face a more powerful enemy, remain in highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/4 "2021-02-14T16:31:07Z")
> [@Clary\_Daemon](#): > > If you can afford a super or titan, you should be able to fly it anywhere They are practically nukes thou, which just causes everything to stop fighting _(goes against low sec culture)_ in case they either get nuked or loose their nukes. When is the last time you have seen a maruader or solo dread not backed by a giant alliance roaming in low sec? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/5 "2021-02-14T16:32:03Z")
I would vote delete the game and just play on the forums… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/6 "2021-02-14T16:35:53Z")
At least the forums run on Linux natively ---
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/7 "2021-02-14T17:05:22Z")
Nukes that take a lot of time and effort to use, are easily countered and killed, and require heavy support to survive. sub-cap pvp is the goal of ccp, and we’ve already seen significant nerfs to super and titans, and i’m absolutely sure we will see more. The culture of lowsec? lol. that culture stems around shooting anything that moves. If people want to set up an empire without the nullbloc, they invest in their own big toys. you’re free to do the same. Having a super or titan doesn’t ensure victory. They’re there to intimidate you, and by the sounds of it they are. Mental pvp vs ship pvp. they’re winning. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/8 "2021-02-14T17:11:09Z")
We don’t want people intimidated we want people to come to low, its a null sec mentality to chase people who are not friends away, those people are content and we are their content. As soon as you invest in big toy’s then all that content avoids you and the space becomes empty. Null sec should feel more unique imo, instead of being just a bigger emptier low. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/9 "2021-02-14T17:11:34Z")
lowsec is for shirtlifters ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/10 "2021-02-14T17:12:49Z")
You are confusing low with renter space. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/11 "2021-02-14T17:13:23Z")
renter space? who pays rent? ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/12 "2021-02-14T17:13:39Z")
Nullbears. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/13 "2021-02-14T17:14:04Z")
I don’t pay rent and I roam null and W often, there’s bugger all there and if you so much as go “boo” they scarper. ---
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/14 "2021-02-14T17:14:39Z")
Even in null, you’re free to sub-cap pvp. I’m in a large alliance, that is part of a larger coalition that is currently winning a null war. We have supers and titans, but prefer to engage in sub-cap pvp. the big toys are reserved for when people bring their big toys. Content doesnt dry up because you have toys. ---
**Author:** ![DarkAbroxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkabroxus/32/253377_2.png) [@DarkAbroxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DarkAbroxus)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/15 "2021-02-14T17:27:24Z")
I want them back in HS. ---
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/16 "2021-02-14T17:30:45Z")
Me too! I’d very much like to bring my Avatar out to mine again. My null alliance didn’t think it was cute and threatened to boot me if I do it again. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/17 "2021-02-14T17:36:29Z")
Remove supers and titans completely from EVE. They serve no engaging purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/18 "2021-02-14T17:41:38Z")
Incorrect. They serve a purpose for high end warfare. And Mining. ---
**Author:** ![Katya\_Itzimaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_itzimaru/32/512123_2.png) [@Katya\_Itzimaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Itzimaru)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/19 "2021-02-14T17:43:10Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > When is the last time you have seen a maruader or solo dread not backed by a giant alliance roaming in low sec? Personally, a couple of weeks ago, and I don’t spend much time in low sec. > **[Revelation | TheBoundster | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/90423324/)** > > TheBoundster (Liber8) lost their Revelation in Seyllin (Essence). Final Blow by Crumple Zone (Deep Hole Investments) flying in a Purifier. Total Value: 3,652,726,145.71 ISK LargeQuafeZero roams in one every week, the CCP+Spectrefleet fleet yesterday caught a lone dread, it’s not that uncommon. Snuffed out aren’t everywhere, there’s room to do engaging content in low. ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503/20 "2021-02-14T18:26:22Z")
low sec is still technically empire space. low sec does not mean no sec. at the least, supers should be forbidden just like they are from high sec. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-titan-and-supers-from-low-sec-allow-only-dreads-and-carriers/295503.md?page=2)