# Remove triglavian from high sec (1.0-0.2)

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [July 30, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995 "2019-07-30T00:18:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/21 "2019-07-30T10:43:59Z")

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> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#):
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> You can farm them solo in a kitey hawk, but a new player can easily learn to avoid them, besides we are not sure what the Triglavians will do next, I doubt they will stay in this state forever.

Again…we are talking about noobs…

Think about it…the day YOU were a noob…how would you have felt…

You have a mission in your first ship,proud of it,you jump through a gate…need a moment to orientate yourself and BOOM are oneshotted by an npc you don’t even have seen in first place.

How would you react?

I would say 90% of all noobs today would think “nah screw this ■■■■,i leave”…

I this “good” or “bad” for the game?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/22 "2019-07-30T10:44:26Z")

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You have a very low opinion of new players

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/23 "2019-07-30T10:46:13Z")

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It’s called “Experience” …🙂

And if you think about it you know i’m right with it 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/24 "2019-07-30T10:47:36Z")

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I know that you think a Ibis loss is a big deal.

But even your retriever can operate perfectly safety through an invasion system.

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/25 "2019-07-30T10:49:28Z")

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Not with a world arc present…or even conduicts established 🙂

They log you in about 5 seconds and you are doomed…believe me i tried it 🙂

And noobs WILL screw this…you know i’m right 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/26 "2019-07-30T10:50:41Z")

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Please stop resisting change.

It is inevitable.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/27 "2019-07-30T10:50:52Z")

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> [@Duro\_Peripar](#):
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> And noobs WILL screw this…you know i’m right 🙂

I’d like to heard some quotes from these actual noobs instead of people like you who seem to be doing a lot more talking on their behalf. Got any?

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/28 "2019-07-30T10:52:29Z")

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> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> I’d like to heard some quotes from these actual noobs instead of people like you who seem to be doing a lot more talking on their behalf. Got any?

Do YOU collect quotes? 🙂

If so congrats on your new hobby 😛

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/29 "2019-07-30T10:53:47Z")

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> [@Duro\_Peripar](#):
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> Do YOU collect quotes? 🙂

When I want to provide sources and supporting evidence for my claims instead of pulling things out of my ass, sure. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/30 "2019-07-30T10:55:31Z")

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> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> When I want to provide sources and supporting evidence for my claims instead of pulling things out of my ass, sure. 🙂

Where are YOUR quotes that prove me wrong then? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Janus\_Gregorian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/janus_gregorian/32/144827_2.png) [@Janus\_Gregorian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Janus_Gregorian)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/31 "2019-07-30T10:56:17Z")

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You being the one making the claims, the onus is on you to prove it.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/32 "2019-07-30T10:57:28Z")

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> [@Duro\_Peripar](#):
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> Where are YOUR quotes

You seem to have trouble reading. I didn’t say you were wrong. I asked if you had anything to support your claim.

Unless of course, you feel like asking for you to provide sources is claiming you are wrong. To which I have to say I’m sorry you feel that way. lol

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/33 "2019-07-30T10:58:34Z")

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Also Merlin, Abitrator, Venture, Rifter and Incursus(? Dunno dont play Gal) are all free and can be replaced by doing the mission again.

Nothing of consquence will be lost.

The changes cannot be resisted. You were right.

Edited to remove Ibis. All corvettes are ofc free too.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/34 "2019-07-30T11:00:58Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> are all free and can be replaced by doing the mission again.

what ?

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/35 "2019-07-30T11:39:34Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> what ?

He doesn’t know it either i guess 🙂

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/36 "2019-07-30T11:52:57Z")

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Career agents, assuming you haven’t already done all 3 sets / faction.

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/37 "2019-07-30T13:12:59Z")

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This does not solve the problem that you cannot leave couster with an industrial…

There is an overlapping invasion there so this status will at least last for the weekend at best…

And i still find it…interesting that things like this can even happen…to not use stronger words…

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/38 "2019-07-30T13:17:34Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Also Merlin, Abitrator, Venture, Rifter and Incursus(? Dunno dont play Gal) are all free and can be replaced by doing the mission again.

Since when are those ships “free” ?

You only get the starter corvette for free…

Beside the ones you get during the career agents missions you have to BUY those ships to replace them once you lost them…so no “free” stuff you just have to order…

Nobody does the career agent mission over and over again just to get a replacement…

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/39 "2019-07-30T13:21:30Z")

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> [@Duro\_Peripar](#):
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> Beside the ones you get during the career agents missions you have to BUY those ships to replace them once you lost them…so no “free” stuff you just have to order…

You lose two, but get about 4 or 5 during the career agents.

For the missions that you lose ships however, you can swap to a corvette for them and lose nothing.

> [@Duro\_Peripar](#):
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> Nobody does the career agent mission over and over again just to get a replacement…

Because it’s far more efficient to buy them. However, if you are THAT hard up for isk you can keep spamming career missions and get as many free ships as you want.

Also @Ramona_McCandless arbitrator is a cruiser. You may mean a punisher, some executioners and a coercer

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavian-from-high-sec-1-0-0-2/178995/40 "2019-07-30T13:22:31Z")

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Yes sorry Punisher was exactly what I meant.

I just happened to be looking at an Arbitrator when I typed that.

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