# Remove triglavians fleets from high sec or let us get easy way to get possitive standiog

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 18, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959 "2024-02-18T00:23:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/202 "2024-04-29T09:00:40Z")

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> [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#):
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> Before entering a trig. controlled system a danger message pops up explaining the risks and the jump is aborted. It can not be a surprise for you since I asume you are able to read.

oh I see, still salty. Let me repeat:

Before entering a trig. controlled system a danger message pops up explaining the risks and the jump is aborted. It can not be a surprise for you since I asume you are able to read.

The message popped up when entering the system, clearly stating that it was dangerous. You closed it and instead of inform yourself, proceeded in the dangerous area.

You got dunked. CCP did all right here, informed you, aborted your jump. You are free to choose your path and free will comes with consequences.

git gud noob!

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**Author:** ![Bongolus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bongolus/32/419060_2.png) [@Bongolus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bongolus)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/203 "2024-04-29T09:11:19Z")

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oh I see, still no brains to understand, that there was no warining and that a neutral Standing is no reason to not jump into HS.

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**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/204 "2024-04-29T16:20:30Z")

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If you did not get a warning, then you previously ignored the message. You may not remember closing it, but it is there and you ignored it. The only way to not get that pop up is if you choose to not get warned about it.

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**Author:** ![Bongolus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bongolus/32/419060_2.png) [@Bongolus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bongolus)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/205 "2024-04-29T18:10:04Z")

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Yeah Genius

> [@Triglavian wormholes](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-wormholes/301142/6):
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> It happens a lot around JITA. You get some good loot in New Caldari and Peri when the Trig wormholes spawns there and tackles freighters. I guess it does not help if we also bump the freighters right so they don’t get back to the gate.

U have a suprisingly little knowlede of the game …

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**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/206 "2024-04-29T18:47:56Z")

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> [@Bongolus](#):
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> There was no Warning. **I had this in other System but ignored it there** , since in have neutral Standings and neutral means neutral.

You already admited that you got a warning. You have been defeated by the game mechanics despite CCP teached you about them.

Thanks for your salt.

Bye!  
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**Author:** ![Bongolus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bongolus/32/419060_2.png) [@Bongolus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bongolus)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/207 "2024-04-29T21:13:19Z")

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Yeah, on a different char. At least learn to read …

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**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/208 "2024-04-29T22:15:03Z")

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Minds cannot be read, no where in that post did you say it was on another character.

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**Author:** ![Azazod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazod/32/336190_2.png) [@Azazod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazod)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/209 "2024-04-29T22:53:56Z")

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They should put triglavians in all systems tbh.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/210 "2024-04-30T06:17:53Z")

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> [@Azazod](#):
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> They should put triglavians in all systems

And rename them to `Triglavian Safe Space Initiative` who enforce `The Triglavian Code & Order of New Eden` while also having agents in NPC stations and in space that are selling fake mining and hauling permits. 😉

😏

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**Author:** ![Bongolus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bongolus/32/419060_2.png) [@Bongolus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bongolus)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/211 "2024-04-30T07:21:59Z")

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> [@Malak\_Starfire](#):
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> Minds cannot be read, no where in that post did you say it was on another character.

> [@Remove triglavians fleets from high sec or let us get easy way to get possitive standiog](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/186):
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> No, this Char never went to such a System and I kept them deliberably open on the other chars since I don’t wanted to forget to check it up. Also it basically just said to check my standings and a neutral standing is no reason for me to not enter 0.9

And I’m also not surprised ur mind can’t read the neutral Standing Part.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/212 "2024-04-30T11:04:45Z")

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Ccp coded them that way. Because initially you had to pick sides, and iirc, even though our standings to them were neutral, the triglavians didnt trust anyone. So fighting against edencom raised their standings and eventually Pochven was formed. And now with the new threats like deathless etc. Its allowed systems to chane from high to low or vice versa.

You honestly cant blame ccp for this. Idk how long you played before you left or what other live mmo games you play, but you should have thought about looking up and seeing what major changes had happened

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**Author:** ![Bongolus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bongolus/32/419060_2.png) [@Bongolus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bongolus)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/213 "2024-04-30T11:23:31Z")

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I don’t trust most people I encounter in HS, still I don’t shoot at sight, because I get penalized when doing so and so are they.

That’s an rather arbitrary change of rules to not blame CCP.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/214 "2024-04-30T11:54:59Z")

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Head meet wall…

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**Author:** ![Bongolus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bongolus/32/419060_2.png) [@Bongolus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bongolus)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/215 "2024-04-30T12:03:46Z")

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Hope it didn’t hurt 🙂

If u like it, okay, bend over, relax, enjoy. But never try to blame me for not liking this threatment, that’s a lost cause …

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/216 "2024-04-30T12:10:21Z")

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Oh, I wasn’t commenting on whatever treatment “other posters” are giving you. I’m not really following this thread - Triglavians have been in the game since May 2019 - and complaining about their (very limited) presence in hisec is fairly futile.

The constructive part is to give you every possible bit of information to allow you to either increase standings with Triglavians or to learn how to avoid them, both of which possibilities require _minimal effort_. Some of us have gone out of their way to provide you all that information. You only need to scroll back.

The entertaining part is to see a flat refusal of any advice and to get called out on it.

Choices, choices …

P.S.: you have of course the right to _not_ like certain game aspects, and to voice that dislike.

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**Author:** ![Bongolus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bongolus/32/419060_2.png) [@Bongolus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bongolus)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/217 "2024-04-30T12:53:42Z")

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When u are not realy following this threat then why commenting on it? That’s the worst lie ever …

I’ve told u how I see it, u can either understand or keep ur flat learning curve and continue to think of urself as smart. But keep on discussing by stating the same BS over and over again will not do u any good.

Edit: Even Eve-U dosen’t state the possibillity of NPC ganks in HighSec:

### High security space

- [CONCORD](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/CONCORD) destroys any criminal player.
- [NPC](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/NPC) navies will chase players with very low [faction standing](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/NPC_standings#Faction_standings).
- Player with a a sufficiently low security status (below -2.0) may be [attacked by NPC faction navy ships](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Security_Status_Details#Security_Status_and_Traveling_Restrictions).
- True [capital ships](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Capital_ships) (i.e. ships that specifically require the [Capital Ships](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Skills:Spaceship_Command#Capital_Ships) skill) may not enter high security space.
- [Cynosural fields](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Cynosural_field) cannot create beacons for jump drives.

> **[System security - EVE University Wiki](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/System_security)**

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/218 "2024-04-30T13:09:26Z")

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> [@Bongolus](#):
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> When u are not realy following this threat then why commenting on it?

Because I was one of the people giving you links and other info on how to deal or not deal with trigs. I came back to see if any of it had had an effect on your game experience.

It did not.

Cursory reading of this thread after your initial post suggests that you’re not here to receive advice, but to vent. That’s fine too, for a while.

> [@Bongolus](#):
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> Even Eve-U dosen’t state the possibillity of NPC ganks in HighSec:

That may be true. That’s why players talk to each other and exchange information via forums and dedicated websites and blogs. And now you know…  
You can contact Eve Uni staff to suggest they add this to their description of hisec space.

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**Author:** ![Bongolus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bongolus/32/419060_2.png) [@Bongolus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bongolus)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/219 "2024-04-30T14:16:28Z")

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I’m sorry, I’ve misplaced u with the other genuis who told me that ‘No action taken, because of lack of knowlede, is an action taken’

Still I’ve told multiple times, why I won’t follow ur advice. And if you realy think I’ll work up 10 years of Lore and Forum before I start playing, u’re out of your mind. Also I wont get online first time and yell into local ‘Hey! Is HS save for me to fly around?’ with a char from 2005, that’s ludicrous!  
I’ve wanted to retry Eve and planed to stay in HS to (re)learn the game. I don’t see any ill logic behind this.

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**Author:** ![Prospektor\_Schipplock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prospektor_schipplock/32/427968_2.png) [@Prospektor\_Schipplock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prospektor_Schipplock)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/220 "2024-04-30T14:43:40Z")

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we working on that issue… but unluckily we can only focus on caldari space atm.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/221 "2024-04-30T17:02:42Z")

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> [@Bongolus](#):
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> I wont get online first time and yell into local ‘Hey! Is HS save for me to fly around?’ with a char from 2005, that’s ludicrous!

It’s totally safe, feel free to undock and AFK mine little guy.

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