# Remove triglavians fleets from high sec or let us get easy way to get possitive standiog **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 18, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959 "2024-02-18T00:23:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Bongolus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bongolus/32/419060_2.png) [@Bongolus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bongolus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/264 "2024-05-05T06:36:29Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > > [@Bongolus](#): > > > > still think ur smart? > > Actually I am as have an **IQ of 131** and have a **PhD in Gankotherapy**. > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/0/c/60c781f4f551577e66e589bc31f8015b8c2d25c6.gif) The Wise asks, the Idiot knows. ---
**Author:** ![Bongolus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bongolus/32/419060_2.png) [@Bongolus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bongolus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/265 "2024-05-05T06:47:35Z")
> [@Whyatever](#): > > > [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > > > CCP does the opposite…they show pve the finger and say ‘if you don’t want to do pvp as we want you to do we install npc that behave like gankers as punishment’…so better do pvp…because we say it… > > The game is PvP _only_, CCP is trying to make all the PvEers understand that without saying it. Everything in the game is PvP even the so-called PvE part are PvP because any player can drop on you and destroy you _while_ you’re PvE-ing which makes PvE a lure, a trap, a joke. > Don’t fall in the trap. Play EvE as a PvP-only game. I don’t do anything “pve” in the game except I did some career agent missions, I don’t fit for PvE and my long or short-term plans do not consider PvE to be a viable means to an end. And frankly, I find it boring. > It’s rather simple really, either you log on to destroy or be destroyed or you’re only wasting your real time. > Which means that until you figure out how to destroy another player’s ship and actually do it, you’re not playing the game, you’re just wasting your time. That’s why I have moved to Lowsec and not doing anything much at all but wait for skills to be done training and move stuff, so I can start trashing all the ships I have so far against stronger and more experienced players. > Either I succeed to trash someone else’s ship within a year ( and I’m not talking ventures ) or I will simply play another game. No need to hit one’s head against the wall for a game that refuses to be played as it is advertised. There is a slight difference in Eve **is** Pvp and Eve **has** Pvp. You’ll get punished for doing pvp in Empire without consent. Also CCP wants you to, dosen’t mean you have to. Your a paying customer and paying for a game that lets you ‘not doing anything much at all but wait’ is just stupid. And third, if you just hug the station in LS, you don’t do pvp either. ---
**Author:** ![Whyatever](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whyatever/32/420672_2.png) [@Whyatever](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whyatever)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/266 "2024-05-05T09:54:36Z")
> [@Bongolus](#): > > There is a slight difference in Eve **is** Pvp and Eve **has** Pvp Yes, they’re two different verbs. > [@Bongolus](#): > > You’ll get punished for doing pvp in Empire without consent Yes, I’m really scared now. > [@Bongolus](#): > > Also CCP wants you to, dosen’t mean you have to. Your a paying customer and paying for a game that lets you ‘not doing anything much at all but wait’ is just stupid I never said it was great. > [@Bongolus](#): > > And third, if you just hug the station in LS, you don’t do pvp either The station is too big to hug. ---
**Author:** ![Whyatever](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whyatever/32/420672_2.png) [@Whyatever](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whyatever)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/267 "2024-05-05T10:40:10Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Bigger is not better I agree > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > With regard to cruisers Bigger is not better. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/268 "2024-05-05T10:42:10Z")
> [@Bongolus](#): > > The **Idiot** asks, the **Wise** knows. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/f/9/6f95486255400c3f689f01c04f4eb814d0fda791.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Kaj\_A\_Beardhat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaj_a_beardhat/32/449367_2.png) [@Kaj\_A\_Beardhat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaj_A_Beardhat)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/269 "2024-05-06T07:42:43Z")
It takes about 3 mil and 10 minutes of your time to get positive trig standings. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/271 "2024-05-07T12:07:06Z")
people still moaning about trigs fleet ? maybe go into pochven and tag one sleeper ship ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/272 "2024-05-08T22:14:07Z")
> [@Whyatever](#): > > The game is PvP _only_, CCP is trying to make all the PvEers understand that without saying it. Everything in the game is PvP even the so-called PvE part are PvP because any player can drop on you and destroy you _while_ you’re PvE-ing which makes PvE a lure, a trap, a joke. > Don’t fall in the trap. Play EvE as a PvP-only game. I don’t do anything “pve” in the game except I did some career agent missions, I don’t fit for PvE and my long or short-term plans do not consider PvE to be a viable means to an end. And frankly, I find it boring. > It’s rather simple really, either you log on to destroy or be destroyed or you’re only wasting your real time. > Which means that until you figure out how to destroy another player’s ship and actually do it, you’re not playing the game, you’re just wasting your time. That’s why I have moved to Lowsec and not doing anything much at all but wait for skills to be done training and move stuff, so I can start trashing all the ships I have so far against stronger and more experienced players. > Either I succeed to trash someone else’s ship within a year ( and I’m not talking ventures ) or I will simply play another game. No need to hit one’s head against the wall for a game that refuses to be played as it is advertised. You cannot be THAT stupid… ---
**Author:** ![Whyatever](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whyatever/32/420672_2.png) [@Whyatever](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whyatever)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/273 "2024-05-09T04:42:43Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > You cannot be THAT stupid… Why not? There is no limit to stupidity and your post shows that. ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/274 "2024-05-15T22:09:27Z")
> [@Whyatever](#): > > Why not? There is no limit to stupidity and your post shows that. Indeed…as i feared your stupidity has no bounderies… Brainwashed and CONVINCED that ONLY his opinion is the right one… ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/275 "2024-05-16T02:33:18Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > You cannot be THAT stupid Pretty sure the game is PVP-centric, where no PVE activity cannot turn PVP really quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/276 "2024-05-16T18:54:26Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Pretty sure the game is PVP-centric, where no PVE activity cannot turn PVP really quickly. I’m pretty sure this is a: wrong and furthermore b: complete irrelevant because PVE is done for a reason,it is a CHOICE and there is no need for pod killing npc bottom line… ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/277 "2024-05-16T18:56:48Z")
> [@Kaj\_A\_Beardhat](#): > > It takes about 3 mil and 10 minutes of your time to get positive trig standings. yep…going into a gankers dreamzone and getting killed is a wise choice and DEFINITIVE the way to go for every pve player… Don’t play that stupid… ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/278 "2024-05-16T20:03:21Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > I’m pretty sure this is a: wrong No its not. CCP has, on multiple occasions, stated that this game is PVP, and that you consent to PVP when you click “undock”. So literally every activity that you are undocked for, is PVP. > [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > and furthermore b: complete irrelevant because PVE is done for a reason,it is a CHOICE and there is no need for pod killing npc Yes. You chose to undock. You chose to go afk. You chose to ignore the system clearly marked as triglavian. Those were all choices you made. And the consequences of your choice, is death by NPC. You realize that triglavian systems give you a pop-up warning telling you you are entering contested space, right? > [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > bottom line… Bottom line, its a PVP game, you shouldnt be afk to begin with, if you pay attention you can easily warp out or even outright avoid the systems that are contested by triglavians, etc etc etc… ---
**Author:** ![Azazod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazod/32/336190_2.png) [@Azazod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazod)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/279 "2024-05-16T20:43:33Z")
Absolutely right. You consent to PvP when you click “undock”. - the second of the 8 golden rules of eve ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/280 "2024-05-16T20:58:47Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > yep…going into a gankers dreamzone and getting killed is a wise choice and DEFINITIVE the way to go for every pve player… > > Don’t play that stupid… Pochven is not as full as you seem to think it is. You can easily go in, shoot some rats, and get out (or get yourself blown up). You actually have to search for a PVP fight. ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/281 "2024-05-17T22:06:01Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Bottom line, its NO PVP game. You are right here… ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/282 "2024-05-17T22:06:56Z")
> [@Azazod](#): > > Absolutely right. > > You consent to PvP when you click “undock”. - the second of the 8 golden rules of eve This was wrong 20 years ago and it still is… ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/283 "2024-05-17T22:13:43Z")
It always was and always will be a pvp gane at core. This game couldnt survive on pve alone without a massive overhaul. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/284 "2024-05-17T23:30:38Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > You are right here… Thats not what I said… > [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > This was wrong 20 years ago and it still is… I know thats what you feel, but the facts of reality is, EVE is a PVP game through and through. Its at the core of the game. > [@8 Golden Rules for EVE Online](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/1): > > - You consent to PvP when you click “undock”. > [@8 Golden Rules for EVE Online](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973): > > [image] These are based on [Akita T’s Golden rules for new players](https://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=588605), originally published on the old forums. Be able to afford a loss Never fly something (or with something in the cargo) you can’t afford to lose. Yes, not even in highsec. Meaning that you should not fly a ship you cannot afford to replace and refit. Consent to PvP You consent to PvP when you click “undock”. You are not safe in 1.0 security space. [CONCORD](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203208902-CONCORD) is there to punish, not to protect. Get used to the idea. In most case… And yes, thats an ISD, as in, a CCP community manager, who is saying this. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959.md?page=15)