# Remove triglavians fleets from high sec or let us get easy way to get possitive standiog **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 18, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959 "2024-02-18T00:23:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/61 "2024-02-19T00:54:21Z")
> I encountered 0 gankers, 0 trig systems, 1 havoc system that didn’t affect me at all. You are assuming it will go like this every time, do you think that is reasonable? ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/62 "2024-02-19T00:57:25Z")
Provided it’s not a system that can have trigs or a system that is protected from insurgencies, it will be. Gankers ofc we can’t guarantee, nor future content, but an aware player will have forewarning if there are changes. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/63 "2024-02-19T01:21:58Z")
It’s just another in a long line of botter or I want a prize for just showing up at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/64 "2024-02-19T01:41:00Z")
Nope, apparently those of us who have been here for years, we want the game to stay the same to keep new people out and we are gatekeepers ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/65 "2024-02-19T01:42:04Z")
> [@Dchill](#): > > You are assuming it will go like this every time, do you think that is reasonable? Yes? I’ve only been playing for 4 years, but I’ve made I’m sure thousands of jumps through hi sec. Thousands. I was ganked once on the jita undock when I wasn’t paying attention and lost my BR. I almost lost a Vargur to EDENCOM on a gate once. That’s the extent of my losses to all those nefarious forces. The game and the community give you all the answers you need to succeed here. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/66 "2024-02-19T01:54:04Z")
I do not see us as gate keepers. I see us as instructors. We cannot determine who is worthy of playing eve nor should we even try. Only the determination of the player can actually determine that. Nor can we determine the direction of the game. New players want a laid back game. We’re trying to make a nitch game mainstream and the mechanics just don’t seem to fit right. If I come across that way, then I made the wrong choice in how I approach the forums. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/67 "2024-02-19T03:18:40Z")
Oh i know what ya meant, but dchill and wesrfahrn and few others blame us as apologists and wont listen to reason. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/68 "2024-02-19T06:19:20Z")
Dchill giving me goose bumps that he’s an alt of a dude that keeps recycling forum alts. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/69 "2024-02-19T08:14:33Z")
He just wants to have a reasonable conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/70 "2024-02-19T09:56:51Z")
You should kill all trigs and loot them, and salvage their wrecks, this is how you remove them from high sec, and how you make a lot of ISK. ---
**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/71 "2024-02-19T14:52:13Z")
> [@Dchill](#): > > This forum has like 10 active people, what are you talking about? With you it makes 11. Basic arithmetic is required course at University of Caille 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/72 "2024-02-20T12:52:56Z")
Can’t believe I read every single post in this thread. I never liked the Trig storyline and I’ve never engaged in the Trig content. Despite my extensive work on NPC standings, I’ve never worked on Edencom or Triglavian standings. I do travel all around New Eden as an Explorer / Mission Runner / Trader and the only problems I encounter from the Edencom / Triglavian content is the constant on-screen pop-up warning me that I’m entering their system. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/73 "2024-02-24T09:29:12Z")
> [@Asinar](#): > > his kind of gamedesign is akin to when you dock up in a station, theres a percentage risk your ship blows up. It’s just bad. There are no upsides. LOL, a percentage chance of your ship blowing up inside a station eh ? You should get blown up more, get into the spirit of the game. How to mitigate getting blown up ? Have insurance, read about the game, be willing to learn, and accept the fact that safety is your own responsibility in New Eden - and no one else’s. If that is not your cup of tea, well, I don’t have to finish that sentence. You know how it ends. ---
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/74 "2024-02-24T11:24:23Z")
> [@Freydrea\_Kozak](#): > > you went too far with this pvp sh\_t and i think its very wrong that you as gaming company forcing people into pvp zones. There’s something wrong with the game when devs dictate to players _what to do_ in a \*_Sandbox_ game. > [@Freydrea\_Kozak](#): > > i think its VERY wrong to force people to do somthing they do not want to do in games I agree. Games are supposed to be for players to play not be forced to do things they don’t want to do. I understand it’s ( supposedly ) easy to solve it but that’s not the point. How about you have to solve a riddle or puzzle _everytime_ you want to dock? It’s easy, just solve it and dock. You can’t? Then EvE isn’t for you. How about you have to have 10 Standing points wjth the faction whose system you’re trying to enter? It’s easy, just do all the missions for that faction. PvE not interesting? Then EvE isn’t for you… Again, there is something wrong with a Sandbox when the devs force players to do something. ---
**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/75 "2024-02-24T11:29:45Z")
I just want high security space to be high security but it might not be possible. Every gate, station and belt you should expect to lose your ship even if its high sec. Because reasons 🙂 But if its not possible to make high security space into high security then at least make the game so much better in terms of everything else that its a price people are willing to pay so to speak. There are thousands of big and small suggestions for how to make the game better but there seems to be no interest from the games maintainers to even consider them. And the content the maintainers come up with themselves is barely thought through either. Can someone explain why its like that? ---
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/77 "2024-02-24T11:52:02Z")
> [@Dchill](#): > > I just want high security space to be high security but it might not be possible “High Security” doesn’t mean anything in this game. It’s like “pre-boarding”, it doesn’t make sense but people play along like sheep as if it did. If you want high security stay docked. > [@Dchill](#): > > But if its not possible to make high security space into high security then at least make the game so much better in terms of everything else that its a price people are willing to pay so to speak CCP is under the impression that the game is worth hundreds of dollars a years… I’m not one to burst other people’s bubble but I do agree things could be improved in several areas. Of course the consensus seems to be “working as intended” so there isn’t even an debate. Play, shut up or gtfo. > [@Dchill](#): > > There are thousands of big and small suggestions for how to make the game better but there seems to be no interest from the games maintainers to even consider them Well, they know better, you see. Plus it’s their game so… > [@Dchill](#): > > And the content the maintainers come up with themselves is barely thought through either. Can someone explain why its like that? That’s simply business before entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/78 "2024-02-24T12:06:38Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > Why don’t they warp scram and destroy you? Because unlike you I actually play the game…and thus am clever. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/79 "2024-02-24T12:11:11Z")
> [@Dchill](#): > > We are discussing triglavians shooting people in high sec even if they are neutral which nobody seems to like. If they are shooting whiny people then I like it and think CCP should add more like that. Can I have all your stuff ? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/80 "2024-02-24T14:37:23Z")
> [@Dchill](#): > > high security space So do you understand what the difference is between hi sec, lo sec, and null is? Something tells me you dont. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remove-triglavians-fleets-from-high-sec-or-let-us-get-easy-way-to-get-possitive-standiog/439959/81 "2024-02-28T23:29:55Z")
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