# Rename Sec Zones **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 24, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084 "2019-09-24T00:04:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Miulan\_Ng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miulan_ng/32/167268_2.png) [@Miulan\_Ng](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miulan_Ng)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/43 "2019-09-24T22:56:43Z")
So I’m hoping you had some takeout seafood to stuff between this genius’s seat cushions… ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Ambulance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_ambulance/32/48290_2.png) [@Black\_Ambulance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Ambulance)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/44 "2019-09-24T23:00:55Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > Seriously, sick of hearing High Sec is High Security. awwww another special snowflake 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/45 "2019-09-24T23:01:45Z")
> [@Black\_Ambulance](#): > > > Seriously, sick of hearing High Sec is High Security. > > awwww another special snowflake 😃 Someone missed the point 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Ambulance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_ambulance/32/48290_2.png) [@Black\_Ambulance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Ambulance)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/46 "2019-09-24T23:03:14Z")
maybe 😃 it’s too late , I should be in bed now 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/47 "2019-09-24T23:15:35Z")
> [@Andski](#): > > The lack of local, the star effects and the wormhole mass limits are irrelevant to whether or not it’s “nullsec” which literally just means that the system’s security level is 0.0 or below. The fact that the network of wormholes is constantly changing, that you have no cynos, mass limits, different wormhole sizes, no stations, no asset safety, no jump clones and yes, no local changes everything completely. Wormhole space requires completely different tactics and you have different possibilities for content, depending on your statics, chance and bob’s will. The difference between null and wormsec is gigantic compared to the difference between lowsec and null. And let’s not forget that there are even different flavors of wormsec with shattered wormholes and Thera. The way I look at all this different places in EVE like lowsec, w-space, highec, null, etc, is that they all simply represent a different set of game mechanics which drastically change how you have to go about the things you do there. And it is like one is better for PvP, more elite or easier, they are just different and you will need to learn how to play individually in any of those places to actually succeed. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/48 "2019-09-24T23:17:50Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > 0.0 and under: UnSpace, The Final Frontier… It’s like you never went outside of highsec and saw that there are systems below 0.0 ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/49 "2019-09-25T00:24:26Z")
It’s like the words “and under” are invisible to you. And also that 11 joke names were more than enough. Of course, reading comprehension and/or sense of humor isn’t something we expect from those who spend their time pretend-PvPing in high sec while forum-posing that the ‘game needs to be harder and harsher’. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/50 "2019-09-25T05:43:03Z")
Be careful of what you wish for… You might find out that CCPs vision has changed and it’s only matter of time when you will need to go away… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/51 "2019-09-25T06:36:36Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > 0.0 and under: UnSpace, The Final Frontier… Shouldn’t it be No-man’s space? Or rather reserve it for WHs… ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/52 "2019-09-25T06:53:52Z")
Then at least people will know that clearly. So… yeah. still a good request. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/53 "2019-09-25T09:45:20Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > > [@Ms\_Steak](#): > > > > > It’s a misnomer > > > > It isnt. > > > > Confusion comes from players’ assumption that security rating is for them when in reality it is for main factions > > It is a misnomer because it is not security, it is justice. Security would PREVENT crime, what we have is PUNNISHMENT Show me how the presence of a security guard stops me from walking up to you and punching you in the face exactly 😛 Because security doesn’t prevent crimes from happening they just respond when they do, sounds more like you don’t actually understand how this works ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/54 "2019-09-25T13:54:07Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > I want a thread where Hilmar, Falcon, and a bunch of devs all answer the question “what is Eve?” in their own words. Where they discuss their thoughts on safety, conflict, what an open sandbox means to them. do they even know what they want these days besides more of our money? ---
**Author:** ![Andre\_Matar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andre_matar/32/296078_2.png) [@Andre\_Matar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andre_Matar)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/55 "2019-09-25T14:01:33Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > Seriously, sick of hearing High Sec is High Security. > > It’s a misnomer and seriously confuses the care bears. Bravo, braavo, sir. I agree wholeheartedly. It should be Medium Security at best. Here, have an apple 🍎 ---
**Author:** ![Andski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andski/32/147029_2.png) [@Andski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andski)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/57 "2019-09-25T17:41:44Z")
I am not contesting that wormhole space and k-space 0.0 are very different in terms of gameplay, I am saying that they’re no different in terms of _security mechanics_. None of the things you mentioned are relevant to _security mechanics_. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/60 "2019-09-26T16:06:02Z")
> [@Andski](#): > > I am saying that they’re no different in terms of _security mechanics_ . None of the things you mentioned are relevant to _security mechanics_ . Well you said > [@Andski](#): > > J-space is still “null security space” in terms of game mechanics, though. Which I interpreted as “game mechanics” and not as “security mechanics”. So this is a simple misunderstanding I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/61 "2019-09-26T16:29:01Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > Be careful of what you wish for… You might find out that CCPs vision has changed and it’s only matter of time when you will need to go away… 😉 I guess conceptually that’s not impossible. But quite unlikely. Though the way you phrase that is interesting. Is that acceptance that Eve is indeed most recently described by CCP as a harsh always-pvp world? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/63 "2019-09-26T23:08:10Z")
Its @Anderson_Geten ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/64 "2019-09-26T23:13:04Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > Ok who is the butt hurt CODE victim with the flag post fetish? 🤣 > > James be praised 😜 > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Its @Anderson_Geten Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/65 "2019-09-27T05:45:00Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Though the way you phrase that is interesting. Is that acceptance that Eve is indeed **most recently described by CCP** as a h **arsh always-pvp world**? I can not say anything about first part marked bold. Did it happen recently or in deep past? I don’t watch it. And i never argued about second part marked bold. I believe that this was initial idea. Whether it keeps this way over the years or have changed - i don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rename-sec-zones/192084/66 "2019-09-27T08:18:32Z")
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