# Renewal of Vows of Obedience

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [September 27, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916 "2017-09-27T21:28:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Alizabeth\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alizabeth_vea/32/122884_2.png) [@Alizabeth\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alizabeth_Vea)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/21 "2017-09-28T00:33:06Z")

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I swear that I shall be ever obedient to the will of the Empress, loyal to the Imperial Throne and faithful to the destiny of Holy Amarr!

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**Author:** ![Fal\_Shepard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fal_shepard/32/179701_2.png) [@Fal\_Shepard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fal_Shepard)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/22 "2017-09-28T00:50:51Z")

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"From the ashes of our hope, we will be reborn. With these chains with which we are bound, we will become indivisible. To those who showed us no mercy, we will give no sympathy. For the flames that burn our cities, we will douse in injustice’s blood.

Long live all defenders of liberty and human spirit, may they illuminate the dream of a free galaxy upon plasma ignited wings forever. "

- Minmatar Talon Commander Fal Shepard

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**Author:** ![Ibrahim\_Tash-Murkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ibrahim_tash-murkon/32/474183_2.png) [@Ibrahim\_Tash-Murkon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ibrahim_Tash-Murkon)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/23 "2017-09-28T01:28:20Z")

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I swear that I shall be ever obedient to the will of the Empress, loyal to the Imperial Throne and faithful to the destiny of Holy Amarr!

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**Author:** ![kul\_Shaishi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kul_shaishi/32/245841_2.png) [@kul\_Shaishi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kul_Shaishi)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/24 "2017-09-28T03:00:03Z")

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May 10,000 nations Celebrates the imperial thrones prosperity

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**Author:** ![Goldfinch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/goldfinch/32/27704_2.png) [@Goldfinch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Goldfinch)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/25 "2017-09-28T04:40:20Z")

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We swear that we shall be ever obedient to God and The Word of God, His Scriptures. In accordance with both, we swear that we shall be ever obedient to the will of the Empress, who rules in His Name, loyal to the Imperial Throne and faithful to the destiny of Holy Amarr.

We commit to serve her Holy Majesty Empress Catiz, just as we seek to serve God and Amarr in the tradition of Empress Jamyl and her eternal soul.

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**Author:** ![Sah\_Phyre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sah_phyre/32/378085_2.png) [@Sah\_Phyre](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sah_Phyre)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/26 "2017-09-28T07:47:17Z")

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In a few months I’ll have spent a third of my life in the Empire. Even during my several lapses of judgment, His light inevitably guided me back into the fold, and rewarded my faith with a sense of peace and belonging I have never felt anywhere else.

There can be no more doubts. This is my home. This is my fate. And this is my vow.

I swear that I shall be ever obedient to the will of the Empress, loyal to the Imperial Throne and faithful to the destiny of Holy Amarr.

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**Author:** ![Triss\_Khopesh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/triss_khopesh/32/27984_2.png) [@Triss\_Khopesh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Triss_Khopesh)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/27 "2017-09-28T07:57:42Z")

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I swear that I shall be ever obedient to the will of the Empress, loyal to the Imperial Throne and faithful to the destiny of Holy Amarr!

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**Author:** ![Adiyamh\_Bukhandara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adiyamh_bukhandara/32/27986_2.png) [@Adiyamh\_Bukhandara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adiyamh_Bukhandara)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/28 "2017-09-28T08:41:12Z")

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Your vow of fealty to a mongrel usurper is an abomination to God’s holy Empire. Is this what the heretics have sunk to? The blind oaths of carpetbagging interlopers to prop up the rotten foundation of a false empress’ reign?

You are not welcome in His holy realm, polluting the blood of His chosen people, confounding His children with lies and deception. There is but one to whom loyalty is given, and _His_ will, gifted to us through _His_ holy word in _His_ Scriptures, shall ever guide us, his wayward children, against deceivers and preachers of falsehoods.

You are a loathsome peddler of lies and sin and wickedness, and I praise Him that He give me purity of soul and clarity of purpose to cleanse you from heaven and earth in holy fire.

His Judgement is coming, and the wicked shall know of His wrath.

I swear that I shall be ever obedient to the will of God, loyal to His word the scriptures, and dedicate my life to saving His wayward children against those who would deceive them.

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**Author:** ![Tamiroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tamiroth/32/277869_2.png) [@Tamiroth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tamiroth)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/29 "2017-09-28T08:50:29Z")

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I swear that I shall be ever obedient to the will of the Empress, loyal to the Imperial Throne and faithful to the destiny of Holy Amarr.

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**Author:** ![Sah\_Phyre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sah_phyre/32/378085_2.png) [@Sah\_Phyre](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sah_Phyre)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/30 "2017-09-28T10:16:39Z")

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> [@Adiyamh\_Bukhandara](#):
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> You are not welcome in His holy realm

There is authority in the Empire that decides who is welcome in its borders and who is not.

With all due respect - however much of it is due - you are not that authority.

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**Author:** ![Shibbla\_Cendri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shibbla_cendri/32/57161_2.png) [@Shibbla\_Cendri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shibbla_Cendri)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/31 "2017-09-28T10:48:20Z")

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To hell with your god! I spit on your empress, your empire and everything it represents!

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**Author:** ![Abdanashtih](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abdanashtih/32/28035_2.png) [@Abdanashtih](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abdanashtih)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/32 "2017-09-28T14:14:03Z")

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I swear that I shall be ever obedient to the will of the Empress, loyal to the Imperial Throne and faithful to the destiny of Holy Amarr!

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**Author:** ![Goldfinch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/goldfinch/32/27704_2.png) [@Goldfinch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Goldfinch)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/33 "2017-09-28T17:07:30Z")

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> Your vow of fealty to a mongrel usurper is an abomination to God’s holy Empire. Is this what the heretics have sunk to? The blind oaths of carpetbagging interlopers to prop up the rotten foundation of a false empress’ reign?
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> You are not welcome in His holy realm, polluting the blood of His chosen people, confounding His children with lies and deception. There is but one to whom loyalty is given, and His will, gifted to us through His holy word in His Scriptures, shall ever guide us, his wayward children, against deceivers and preachers of falsehoods.
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> You are a loathsome peddler of lies and sin and wickedness, and I praise Him that He give me purity of soul and clarity of purpose to cleanse you from heaven and earth in holy fire.

Your heresy should be self evident, but here you are totally unaware of it.

You cannot speak for God. You have no such authority.

That you are allowed to have this opinion tells us only one thing: that you are not significant, much like Max Singularity and other nonentity heretics like him.

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**Author:** ![Ilan\_Ardishapur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ilan_ardishapur/32/341059_2.png) [@Ilan\_Ardishapur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ilan_Ardishapur)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/34 "2017-09-28T17:14:27Z")

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You’re right we cannot speak for God, we can only follow his word and teachings gifted to us through the scriptures. You’re the one who is unaware of the heresy flowing from your childish tongue.

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**Author:** ![Adiyamh\_Bukhandara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adiyamh_bukhandara/32/27986_2.png) [@Adiyamh\_Bukhandara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adiyamh_Bukhandara)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/36 "2017-09-28T17:39:23Z")

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Foolish child! See how the lies of the unbelievers have led you to the way of perdition! You imagine that I, a mere mortal who am nothing, would presume to claim the authority of Almighty God, to whom I am but the merest mote of dust on the thinnest sliver of the light that shines from His divine will?

See how you are blinded by the rot spreading within His holy Empire, how you are seduced by the pleasing falsehoods of the usurpers, how you make common cause with the unclean and debase yourself and His Law by raising them! I would never presume to claim the authority for myself to shape His Empire with my own will, I would never stoop to idolatry such as this.

I am nothing. I am empty of myself, given body and soul to be the vessel for His will, that I might serve His Law, in faith that He may choose to anoint me with His divine will, that I might serve Him and cleanse His Empire of heresy. He may choose, in His infinite wisdom, to consign me to eternal damnation, for I am but mortal, sinner in His eyes, and only my faith and unswerving devotion to His word, given to us in the holy scripture, might save me.

I presume no authority for myself. It is right there for all to see, believer and unbeliever, faithful and heretic alike, plain as the cleansing light of day.

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**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/37 "2017-09-28T17:47:36Z")

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You’re True Amarr. So why are you calling yourself ‘nothing’, a ‘mote of dust’, a ‘sinner’? Why are you saying that only your _faith_ and _unserving devotion_ save you?

Either True Amarr are divinely blessed and superior by simple merit of their _blood_, and so you can claim Empress Catiz’s own True Amarrian blood is too diluted by Udorian ancestry, or they are not divinely blessed and their salvation is according to nothing but faith alone, in which case a person not of True Amarrian blood is capable of exactly the same.

Pick one, Purist. Pride or humility. You don’t get both.

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**Author:** ![O\_b\_Haru\_Sen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/o_b_haru_sen/32/28090_2.png) [@O\_b\_Haru\_Sen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/O_b_Haru_Sen)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/38 "2017-09-28T18:30:33Z")

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I swear that I shall be ever obedient to the will of the Empress, loyal to the Imperial Throne and faithful to the destiny of Holy Amarr!

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**Author:** ![Umar\_Ahmad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/umar_ahmad/32/171134_2.png) [@Umar\_Ahmad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Umar_Ahmad)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/39 "2017-09-28T18:40:11Z")

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I swear that I shall be ever obedient to the will of the Empress, loyal to the Imperial Throne and faithful to the destiny of Holy Amarr!

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**Author:** ![Hutomo\_Alatas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hutomo_alatas/32/28098_2.png) [@Hutomo\_Alatas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hutomo_Alatas)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/40 "2017-09-28T18:44:53Z")

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I swear that I shall be ever obedient to the will of the Empress, loyal to the Imperial Throne and faithful to the destiny of Holy Amarr!

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**Author:** ![Ryouma\_Sen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ryouma_sen/32/28099_2.png) [@Ryouma\_Sen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ryouma_Sen)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/renewal-of-vows-of-obedience/27916/41 "2017-09-28T18:46:48Z")

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I swear that I shall be ever obedient to the will of the Empress, loyal to the Imperial Throne and faithful to the destiny of Holy Amarr!

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