# Rens and Hek are loosing ground even more? **URL:** \ **Category:** Market Discussions\ **Created:** [December 17, 2023, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rens-and-hek-are-loosing-ground-even-more/432839 "2023-12-17T12:40:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Meditril](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meditril/32/378591_2.png) [@Meditril](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meditril)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rens-and-hek-are-loosing-ground-even-more/432839/1 "2023-12-17T12:40:10Z")
Hi Traders, Rens and Hek never have been the top market places in the game, but I somehow have the feeling in recent months they have lost even more ground compared to other marked places. Especially Dodixie seems to have improved. - What are your opinions about this? - Do you observe the same? - Any ideas why this is happening? ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rens-and-hek-are-loosing-ground-even-more/432839/2 "2023-12-17T12:44:44Z")
> [@Meditril](#): > > but I somehow have the feeling in recent months they have lost even more ground so … you cant proofe it ? its just a feeling ? maybe your feeling are wrong ! maybe feelings are bad if you want to discuss a change ! maybe you need to observe it first and have a point and no feelings ? ---
**Author:** ![Meditril](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meditril/32/378591_2.png) [@Meditril](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meditril)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rens-and-hek-are-loosing-ground-even-more/432839/3 "2023-12-17T13:07:09Z")
Thank you for your feedback, and no I can not provide any proof. This is why I just share by “feelings” to listen what others have observed. So what are your concrete observations? ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rens-and-hek-are-loosing-ground-even-more/432839/4 "2023-12-17T13:25:04Z")
> [@Meditril](#): > > Rens and Hek never have been the top market places in the game You sure about that? I think Jita was and still is the top lol. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rens-and-hek-are-loosing-ground-even-more/432839/5 "2023-12-17T13:29:45Z")
Re-read. They admit they werent the top markets. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red_serenity/32/403073_2.png) [@Red\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red_Serenity)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rens-and-hek-are-loosing-ground-even-more/432839/6 "2023-12-24T21:23:42Z")
I would say I have had the opposite results, I have tons of open sell orders in Dodixie and can’t seem to keep Hek and Rens supplied. ---
**Author:** ![Meditril](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meditril/32/378591_2.png) [@Meditril](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meditril)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rens-and-hek-are-loosing-ground-even-more/432839/7 "2023-12-26T09:47:33Z")
Supply harder 😉 Thank you for keeping Rens market alive. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rens-and-hek-are-loosing-ground-even-more/432839/8 "2024-03-25T09:47:34Z")
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