# Replacing the CSM with another model? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 15, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959 "2022-03-15T18:48:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/205 "2022-03-31T00:06:42Z")
> [@Regina\_Rockbound](#): > > When The Sims go to space and arrive in New Eden would be an interesting crossover and kerbal and minecraft and the get along gang ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/206 "2022-03-31T00:19:28Z")
> [@Vinnegar\_Douche](#): > > Is this where you claim you had no idea that had happened? It didn’t happen. Nobody doxxed anybody. A player called for Rattati to step down. There’s a pretty massive difference, and I find it hard to believe you don’t know what that difference is. > [@Vinnegar\_Douche](#): > > And this proves what? That reddit as a whole also felt that the hate spread there was perfectly normal and acceptable behavior? Does it prove that I should just shut up because my post was brigaded by the perpetrators of hate? It proves that you’re in the minority. Nobody brigaded your post. They saw it, they read it, they recognized it was dumb, they downvoted it. > [@Vinnegar\_Douche](#): > > I will never forget your support of the actions those people took. Everyone should know about it. > > That experience showed me that there is no place on reddit for people who are enjoying the game… What support? I didn’t support anybody suggesting Rattati step down - that’s dumb, it’s not going to happen, and it’s a waste of everybody’s time to even make the argument. But if folks want to criticize him or anybody else at CCP for changes they’ve pushed or the things they’ve said publicly, that’s absolutely okay, and the company should invite the criticism. Nobody is above criticism. > [@Vinnegar\_Douche](#): > > Criticism and hateful actions aren’t the same sir. From where I stand I see a bunch of over-entitled whiney people who are unable to adapt to a changing environment. From where I stand I have seen changes that improved my game play in most cases or provided me with challenges to overcome. For instance - While I miss the damage boost on a ship I used to fly, I now enjoy the overall benefits on a ship that I switched to. If that’s what you’re seeing from where you sit, you’re not really paying attention. The people who are complaining are still here. It’s when people stop complaining, because they’ve all quit, that folks need to be concerned. I’m glad you’re having fun and your friends are having fun, but I don’t think it’s a good idea for you to pretend that because this is true for you and your friends that it must be true for everybody. It’s not. And those players deserve to be heard, even if you disagree with them. > [@Kenrailae](#): > > The good news is at least a dozen prominent FCs support the CSM gutting other playstyles in favor of forcing people to be content farms, so it must be working as intended. Long live Eve. Broken record continues to be broken. ---
**Author:** ![Kenrailae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenrailae/32/494205_2.png) [@Kenrailae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenrailae)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/207 "2022-03-31T00:26:52Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Broken record continues to be broken. At least you have the self-awareness to know how you sound, my dude. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/208 "2022-03-31T00:30:50Z")
> [@Kenrailae](#): > > At least you have the self-awareness to know how you sound, my dude. It’s unfortunate that we can’t simply agree to disagree, and you feel the need to go this route. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/210 "2022-03-31T00:40:30Z")
You make a comment referencing something that had nothing to do with anything we were talking about. Like I said, it’s unfortunate that you can’t just agree to disagree and you need to play these dumb games. You’re a perfect example of what makes doing this job a chore and not fun. ---
**Author:** ![Vinnegar\_Douche](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vinnegar_douche/32/414578_2.png) [@Vinnegar\_Douche](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vinnegar_Douche)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/211 "2022-03-31T00:45:35Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > You’re a perfect example of what makes doing this job a chore and not fun. Yeah @Kenrailae Can’t you just shut up? You filthy minority… The important people are talking here. And they’ll keep talking until you finally shut up and let them have the last word. Because while the CSM represents all players, it doesn’t represent you. So… just stop talking and let the important people tell you how to think. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/213 "2022-03-31T00:56:16Z")
I’m not going to change my mind because you feel like chasing me around and harassing me because I disagree with you, sorry. I’m not causing drama. I haven’t said a word to you until you came over here and started up again. Please stop harassing me. ---
**Author:** ![Vinnegar\_Douche](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vinnegar_douche/32/414578_2.png) [@Vinnegar\_Douche](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vinnegar_Douche)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/214 "2022-03-31T00:56:45Z")
> [@Kenrailae](#): > > I think you’re getting emotional again. For everyone getting emotional (me included) it is a time honored tradition of The Wormhole Police to provide emotional support puppies to help you through it. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/b/1/2b1c61dd8e61f1ead2651d076b18547d3ac8a11e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Kenrailae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenrailae/32/494205_2.png) [@Kenrailae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenrailae)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/215 "2022-03-31T01:01:01Z")
YOU literally quoted at me. I just commented in a thread regarding the CSM, that you happened to also comment in. Me commenting had nothing to do with you commenting in the thread. Are you really that bloody arrogant that you think the entire world revolves around you so much? Ho-Lee-fook, my dude. Please go get some help. > [@Kenrailae](#): > > The good news is at least a dozen prominent FCs support the CSM gutting other playstyles in favor of forcing people to be content farms, so it must be working as intended. Long live Eve. Where in this did I quote at you, mention you, speak at you, or otherwise? Are you so sensitive that me merely referencing something you said in another thread within 20 posts of any post you make is and can only be me following you around to harass you? Or should we look at the OBJECTIVE facts. You quoted at me here first. As such, if anything, I am being harassed by a member of the CSM for making a comment in a relevant thread… regarding the CSM. Congratulations. You played yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Regina\_Rockbound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/regina_rockbound/32/310582_2.png) [@Regina\_Rockbound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Regina_Rockbound)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/216 "2022-03-31T01:13:06Z")
@Brisc_Rubal everytime you post in a thread there’s drama. Then again, you’re not the most favorite member of CSM to say the least. Wonder why… 😒 ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/217 "2022-03-31T01:15:51Z")
i like him he is class act and mitans is cute AF ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/218 "2022-03-31T01:20:05Z")
> [@Kenrailae](#): > > Are you really that bloody arrogant that you think the entire world revolves around you so much? Ho-Lee-fook, my dude. > [@Kenrailae](#): > > Are you so sensitive that me merely referencing something you said in another thread /sigh ---
**Author:** ![Kenrailae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenrailae/32/494205_2.png) [@Kenrailae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenrailae)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/219 "2022-03-31T01:24:32Z")
I like how _you_ directly ping the lad and he ignores it and I make a reference and it turns into a 10 post ‘I’m the victim’ thread. Christ. Now, back on the topic of the CSM. Long live Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/220 "2022-03-31T01:29:01Z")
> [@Regina\_Rockbound](#): > > @Brisc_Rubal everytime you post in a thread there’s drama. Then again, you’re not the most favorite member of CSM to say the least. Wonder why… 😒 I can’t help the fact that I have a fan club that likes to swing every place I comment into some greater indictment of me for having the audacity to hold opinions. Who do you think is the “most favorite member of the CSM?” I’d be interested in hearing your views. ---
**Author:** ![Vinnegar\_Douche](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vinnegar_douche/32/414578_2.png) [@Vinnegar\_Douche](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vinnegar_Douche)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/221 "2022-03-31T01:35:00Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > most favorite member of the CSM? Suitonia killed my alt who was AFK, not cloaked and worth over 2billion ISK. They then did some fun role play with me on the terrible, horrible, really bad reddit thingey. This confirms that CSM member actually plays the game, has a great attitude and visits wormhole space. @Suitonia is my favorite CSM member. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_murk_udoria/32/421974_2.png) [@Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Murk_Udoria)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/222 "2022-03-31T01:37:17Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > I can’t help the fact that I have a fan club that likes to swing every place I comment into some greater indictment of me for having the audacity to hold opinions. Is that why you have at times done it to others? ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/223 "2022-03-31T02:37:04Z")
> [@Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](#): > > Is that why you have at times done it to others? I have never followed someone from thread to thread, mocking them for disagreeing with me. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_murk_udoria/32/421974_2.png) [@Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Murk_Udoria)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/224 "2022-03-31T03:06:40Z")
Fair, you’ve just done it mostly from other mediums. ---
**Author:** ![CPPC\_T\_amber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cppc_t_amber/32/473070_2.png) [@CPPC\_T\_amber](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CPPC_T_amber)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/225 "2022-03-31T04:51:55Z")
> [@Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](#): > > Don’t feel represented by the CSM. Have you ever felt that you were? ---
**Author:** ![Regina\_Rockbound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/regina_rockbound/32/310582_2.png) [@Regina\_Rockbound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Regina_Rockbound)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959/226 "2022-03-31T08:25:50Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Who do you think is the “most favorite member of the CSM?” I’d be interested in hearing your views Mike Azariah hands down… and I like him too. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/replacing-the-csm-with-another-model/353959.md?page=11)