# Request for clarification of rumours concerning the Krusual Tribe **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [June 8, 2019, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491 "2019-06-08T10:15:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Isha\_Vuld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isha_vuld/32/470113_2.png) [@Isha\_Vuld](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isha_Vuld)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/21 "2019-06-10T00:19:03Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > You are talking to one of mine, Vuld. Is that…Supposed to be in any way intimidating? You already know how I feel about you, Else. Perhaps you should cry to Xaar a little bit more, see if it helps this time? If you don’t want criticism, maybe try to recruit less suspect individuals. Maybe try to be a little less absurd in who you back in combat. Or just come out and admit your colours have changed. Either is fine by me. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/22 "2019-06-10T04:47:41Z")
> [@Isha\_Vuld](#): > > Is that…Supposed to be in any way intimidating? You already know how I feel about you, Else. Maybe if you think that was intended as intimidation, you should at some point re-examine your feelings. Again - you are very welcome to come talk to me to my face, instead of raging on the IGS. That said, not like I at this point have any reason to _care_ how you feel about me, or your frankly pitiful attempts to lift yourself up by attacking me. Actions speak louder than words. ---
**Author:** ![Lug\_Ohtar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lug_ohtar/32/469793_2.png) [@Lug\_Ohtar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lug_Ohtar)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/24 "2019-06-11T13:38:58Z")
Strong when One, Their souls fighting Obscurity, Surviving dark Fate, When not listening to the Snake. ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/25 "2019-06-26T06:12:47Z")
> [@](#): > > In particular, questions have been [raised](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491) over the Krusual Tribe’s re-activation of their mountain fortresses and underground bunkers shortly before the attack took place, though these have been angrily rejected by the Krusual as “insulting conspiracy theories.” Despite the Krusual Tribe’s dismissal of those questions, the news that units of the Tronhadar Free Guard were deployed for cold-weather warfare training in an undisclosed area of Mikramurka tundra has breathed new life into the brewing tribal dispute. Oh my. Not content with sending Blooders our way, the Krusual are getting ready for some good old fashioned snowball fights hrm? One event can be a coincidence. Two is starting to form a pattern. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/26 "2019-06-26T06:24:44Z")
I wonder what would happen if I said “bring it” this time? ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/27 "2019-06-26T06:26:00Z")
**Edited** after some reflection on what I think about all this: Think about what you are doing. The Krusual are not bad people, and they certainly care more for Matar than either of you - if they had known beforehand something would have threatened Matar - any part of it - they would have stopped it. I get it, you and a lot of other people are looking for someone to blame. But maybe don’t blame a Tribe that has done more for the Republic’s and our cultures’ survival than any of us present here. I believe in their integrity far more than some Angel Cartel loyalists snide insinuations. But hey, let’s spread and incite some intertribal hatred and paranoia, because not like there is enough that already. ■■■■ you people genuinely disgust me sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Jocca\_Quinn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jocca_quinn/32/441838_2.png) [@Jocca\_Quinn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jocca_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/28 "2019-06-26T10:57:35Z")
> [@](#): > > _Units of the Tronhadar Free Guard were deployed for cold-weather warfare training in an undisclosed area of Mikramurka tundra._ I wonder what the Mikramurka Shock Troops think about that, hope they are keeping an eye on them. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/29 "2019-06-26T11:51:08Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > But maybe don’t blame a Tribe that has done more for the Republic’s and our cultures’ survival than any of us present here. What the hell have the Krusual ever done for the survival of anyone not Krusual? Just because they got off easier than the rest of us by running to the hills at the first sign of trouble does not mean they “did more than anyone”. ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/30 "2019-06-26T11:52:15Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > What the hell have the Krusual ever done for the survival of anyone not Krusual? Just because they got of easier than the rest of us by running to the hills at the first sign of trouble does not mean they “did more than anyone”. The now-scandalous mountain forts didn’t shelter just the Krusual. But I guess we’re feeling very revisionistic and revolutionist today. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/31 "2019-06-26T11:55:45Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > But I guess we’re feeling very revisionistic and revolutionist today. And if it is, isn’t that the vogue in the nation in this last decade, making me hip and trendy? Come on, our whole government is _based_ on a revisionist take on someone’s half-baked idea of Real Tribal Ways, with no basis in any living tradition, and you accuse me of the same when I point out _facts_? ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/32 "2019-06-26T11:57:26Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > And if it is, isn’t that the vogue in the nation in this last decade, making me hip and trendy? Come on, our whole government is _based_ on a revisionist take on someone’s half-baked idea of Real Tribal Ways, with no basis in any living tradition, and you accuse me of the same when I point out _facts_ ? Our whole government is an entirely different topic. I’m not having you ■■■■ on an entire Tribe on “_facts_” which are basicly just more centuries old stereotypes, slander and Sebiestor bigotry. And _frankly_ I expected better of you, specifically. ---
**Author:** ![Tananarive\_Anat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tananarive_anat/32/143664_2.png) [@Tananarive\_Anat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tananarive_Anat)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/33 "2019-06-26T12:46:45Z")
Hello. Let’s go over this, shall we? The fortresses were raised because of the threat from the Triglavian invasion. The fact that we activated them just before the attack on Mikramurka is pure coincidence. For my part, personally, I’m very sorry about what happened there. Such loss of life is unacceptable for any Matari. And I understand that you’re all angry. But feeding into these vile rumors? That’s not helpful for anyone. We regular folk didn’t know anything about the cold-weather training. Since the news article came out, it’s been explained to us that the training was a routine workshop. Again, the timing was unfortunate, but remember that we were, and still are, reacting to a vast unknown. There’s a literal invasion in progress. Wouldn’t you want to be prepared for the worst? ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/34 "2019-06-26T13:10:22Z")
> [@Tananarive\_Anat](#): > > Since the news article came out, it’s been explained to us that the training was a routine workshop. I have a nice stargate in Delve, do you want to buy? ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/35 "2019-06-26T14:18:37Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > I have a nice stargate in Delve, do you want to buy? I have some sweet rumours on Brutor and Thukker, want to believe all of them? ---
**Author:** ![Constantly\_Outraged\_Sebiestor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/constantly_outraged_sebiestor/32/417519_2.png) [@Constantly\_Outraged\_Sebiestor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Constantly_Outraged_Sebiestor)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/36 "2019-06-26T19:27:35Z")
> [@Jocca\_Quinn](#): > > [quote=] > _Units of the Tronhadar Free Guard were deployed for cold-weather warfare training in an undisclosed area of Mikramurka tundra._ I wonder what the Mikramurka Shock Troops think about that, hope they are keeping an eye on them. [/quote] They’re probably sipping cocktails, wearing bathing costumes, and sitting on deck chairs in full view of the Tronhadar Free Guard doing their cold-survival drills. ---
**Author:** ![Sviruah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sviruah/32/515639_2.png) [@Sviruah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sviruah)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/37 "2019-06-26T19:46:29Z")
From the worked, built start to the rough last words, I struggle to find a way anyone from the Krusual tribe could answer the questions and be listened by the people pushing them. I just can hope that the petition made by the local Mikramurka chiefs to the Tribal Concil will bear the seeds of wisdom, and allow the strength needed for the Tribes, to grow, to find trust on Matar again. The closest to the simple, essential steps of life, the more eager to protect it. I hope. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/39 "2019-06-30T05:07:40Z")
How in all the stars does demon-summoning have anything to do with the Krusual thing? Can you people _please_ not crap up threads with nonsense? The off-topic thread exists specifically for the nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/request-for-clarification-of-rumours-concerning-the-krusual-tribe/165491/40 "2019-09-28T05:07:44Z")
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