# Rescinding of old Words; Grievances

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [February 26, 2018, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833 "2018-02-26T06:41:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/21 "2018-02-27T05:24:31Z")

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QED

5char

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**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/22 "2018-02-27T10:48:16Z")

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> [@Coulter\_Phelps](#):
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> Strange… Kimmie and I get along just fine. Maybe most of the people who talk to her are just looking to rile her up? Maybe they’re the abrasive ones.

Funny thing is, I used to think like you, or like any of the Kimmie apologists really, that maybe she’s just a poor misunderstood soul whom people are mean to for no reason. Well, when she blows up in your face for no reason, maybe you’ll rethink your stance like I did.

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**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/23 "2018-02-27T13:01:15Z")

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We should have some coffee sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/24 "2018-02-27T18:05:43Z")

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> [@Coulter\_Phelps](#):
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> Strange… Kimmie and I get along just fine. Maybe most of the people who talk to her are just looking to rile her up? Maybe they’re the abrasive ones.

Actually, most of the people who talk to me are friendly, and I am friendly to them.

There are, of course, some rotten apples, whom I am abrasive with. Certain trolls are trying to claim that was because of no reason, but in fact, this is **_never_** the case. These people are just lying about me and trying to make look Caldari State bad by claiming this nonsence about me.

When I am abrasive to people this comes only _ **after their own personal attack** _. And usually I make sure to show why exactly I give harsh replies to them. It’s just:

1. they don’t want to admit their own mistakes, even when they are obvious;
2. they are trying to attack Caldari State by attacking me.

I’d like to say it one more time clearly: in every case for every such rotten apple I can show with ease what exactly did they wrong that caused my harsh treatment of them. _It is never without a reason._

As for the grievances: I don’t really hold them. I only treat people as they deserved it by their actions and words, on what they say and how. It is not belonging to Caldari Officer to hold a grudge against a person way below our stature. These trolls are really nothing for me - just little barking and annoying gallente propagandists. I either step on them, show them their place or step over them.

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Oh, and a quick addition about riling up: I don’t think I can be “riled up” anymore (at least by them), and I don’t remember when the last time I was raising my voice on these trolls. When I speak to these rotten apples or about them, I speak with disdain and contempt, not anger.

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**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/25 "2018-02-27T18:23:33Z")

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Nomistrav; best of luck with you detente.

As to the rest, huh.

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**Author:** ![Claudia\_Osyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/claudia_osyn/32/387939_2.png) [@Claudia\_Osyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Claudia_Osyn)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/26 "2018-02-27T19:19:37Z")

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I don’t get how anybody could manage to get on kimmy’s bad side. I mean just look at her: sweet, innocent, thoughtful, well spoken, a great listener, and she always trys to see things from other people’s perspective. How could anyone find fault with her. 🤔

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/27 "2018-02-27T19:33:58Z")

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Really?  
🤨

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**Author:** ![Claudia\_Osyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/claudia_osyn/32/387939_2.png) [@Claudia\_Osyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Claudia_Osyn)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/28 "2018-02-27T20:36:17Z")

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Really

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/29 "2018-02-27T20:40:50Z")

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When exactly have you two gotten along?

😐

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**Author:** ![Claudia\_Osyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/claudia_osyn/32/387939_2.png) [@Claudia\_Osyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Claudia_Osyn)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/30 "2018-02-27T21:03:11Z")

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Always. Kimmy loves me… can’t you tell? We are BFFs for life.

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/31 "2018-02-27T21:05:50Z")

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That statements going to go down well…

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**Author:** ![Claudia\_Osyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/claudia_osyn/32/387939_2.png) [@Claudia\_Osyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Claudia_Osyn)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/32 "2018-02-27T21:08:36Z")

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I mean, who wouldn’t want to be friends with me, the Goddess of the IGS?

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/33 "2018-02-27T21:20:59Z")

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Naplius  
Diana Kim  
Mika  
Anyone who “doesnt believe in false gods” (amarr)

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**Author:** ![Claudia\_Osyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/claudia_osyn/32/387939_2.png) [@Claudia\_Osyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Claudia_Osyn)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/34 "2018-02-27T22:37:51Z")

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Balderdash! I’m not false, I’m obviously right here.

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**Author:** ![Nomistrav](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomistrav/32/278296_2.png) [@Nomistrav](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomistrav)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/35 "2018-02-27T23:54:59Z")

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Enough.

This thread was made because it was a public declaration - it was not meant to be a sounding board or echo chamber for your petty grievances. Unless you are looking to perhaps sit down with Diana, and/or allow me to mediate, then I kindly ask to set aside the hostilities. They solve nothing. More importantly, they do not belong here.

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**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/36 "2018-02-28T00:00:24Z")

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But that’s the point. In my case the hostilities have solely originated from her side and she has been unwilling to listen to anything I’ve had to say. Therefore, she gets the same treatment from me, as she plainly does not deserve anything better.

Or, to reiterate my first reply:

No.

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**Author:** ![Nomistrav](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomistrav/32/278296_2.png) [@Nomistrav](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomistrav)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/37 "2018-02-28T00:32:57Z")

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Then take it to her. Not me.

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**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/38 "2018-02-28T00:36:08Z")

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> [@Nomistrav](#):
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> Whilst I understand fully than many find Diana to be abrasive, I would encourage you to afford her the patience and concern that I did. Perhaps you may find resolution to your grievances.

My response is to that specific part, and I believe is not out of place in that context.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rescinding-of-old-words-grievances/59833/39 "2018-05-29T00:36:18Z")

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