# RESOLVED: Exploit Notification - Rogue Drones and Triglavian standings **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** official\ **Created:** [October 14, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583 "2020-10-14T15:29:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/242 "2020-10-16T14:40:53Z")
Reading comp not your strength I see… ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/244 "2020-10-16T14:48:16Z")
Oh dear, poor dear… have a hug, now go have a cry in the corner for a while, when you’ve dried yourself out do come back and try to enlighten me about where I talked about ‘no consequences’, apart from in your own mind… Waiting… ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/245 "2020-10-16T14:53:32Z")
I already did, and you clearly understood _exactly_ what I was pointing out. Hiding behind ‘but that’s not what I meant’ while attempting to shift the onus for clear communication onto the reader… is weak. Lazy. Shoddy writing and cowardly presentation. ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/246 "2020-10-16T14:56:36Z")
You have not, and can not… come on deary, you started this, so prove your point… I’ve seen no reference to my post re: ‘no consequences’ and no reference in my posts stating: ‘not what I meant’… so far it’s all you, do you do this normally? - argue with yourself? You made an assertion, but provided no proof… (twice now in fact, well I could add a couple more in for your insults). ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/247 "2020-10-16T15:00:46Z")
Arrendis seems to be of the opinion that ‘sandbox’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘single shard’ sandbox - or even ‘everyone can get into the sandbox.’ I think that is where you two are crossing wires. ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/248 "2020-10-16T15:03:09Z")
I’d disagree there, but he still hasn’t actually made a case… nothing in fact apart from a few insults… A little odd really, but this is Arrendis… Got himself into a bit of a pickle 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/249 "2020-10-16T15:30:49Z")
Remember during one of the events (maybe crimson harvest or guardian’s gala or something) the first few hours the loot tables were messed up and people literally made billions of ISK running the sites but after CCP realized the error they nerfed the loot tables so the sites no longerd dropped anything worthy so people haven’t ran them anymore for the most part. The people who ran them early kept the billions worth of loot. So yeah don’t hold your breath. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/250 "2020-10-16T15:43:16Z")
The problem remains, the majority of normal EvE players can’t participate in the new content or have the slightest chance to in the near future, which apparently was the invest of a whole team over several months. And furthermore 50% of the not so normal players participating in this content so far got shafted, as they have an even lower chance to ever see anything of the new stuff as the normal player. Who makes such stupid calls? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/251 "2020-10-16T15:45:01Z")
I’ve not gotten myself into a pickle at all. Your insistence that CCP’s take on ‘forcing players […] to pick one side or the other is completely f’king anathema to the core concept of EVE being a sandbox’ clearly implies that you think CCP shouldn’t be forcing players to pick one side or the other. The only reason picking a side has any weight at all is consequences. Ergo, your statement carries the implication that it is those consequences which are anathema to the sandbox. The fact that you’re apparently too stupid to understand what your words mean to someone who isn’t able to perfectly read your mind isn’t _my_ problem. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/252 "2020-10-16T15:59:53Z")
CCP shouldn’t be “forcing” people to do anything, although pointing this out feels pedantic and perhaps isn’t the actual point being made here. ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/253 "2020-10-16T17:30:40Z")
Bit late back, went for a run 🏃‍♂️ Did you just flag my other post? lol… Back to it: So you made an assumption and then followed that up with a false assertion - and then proceeded to insult and belittle to cover up the fact… As you know **full well** , the Eve standing system is flexible - actions do indeed (and should) have consequences, but those can be affected by further actions: - Running missions for the one side, another or another, depending on which standings you are trying to increase - e.g. running Caldari or Khanid to increase Amarr standings through association) - Epic Arcs - or Skills (Diplomacy etc). Amongst others… The ability to (through effort) make changes and mitigate the consequences of previous actions is all part of a ‘sandbox’ experience. [CCP has developed the Trig/Edencom relationship in a completely different way to the system that has stood for aeons, in what I have asserted, is a poorly thought out and antithetical (to Eve ‘as a sandbox’) way. This is the standings system in Eve, I suppose if **you** don’t understand the system, then I can see why you might erroneously jump to strange conclusions about consequences (I’m being far too generous… to you here) and in that same light, we might as well forgive the devs, given they have been around for far less time than you or I. Edit: Dinner and TV time, laters 🥳 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/254 "2020-10-16T17:32:04Z")
> [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](#): > > we might as well forgive the devs, given they have been around for far less time than you or I. tee hee ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/255 "2020-10-16T18:27:47Z")
> [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](#): > > Did you just flag my other post? Nope. Wasn’t me, sorry. Your posting quality—and other folks’ opinions of it—remains not my problem. ---
**Author:** ![Dior\_Ambraelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dior_ambraelle/32/393685_2.png) [@Dior\_Ambraelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dior_Ambraelle)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/256 "2020-10-16T20:03:39Z")
@FC_Convict could you please give us a detailed explanation of this “resolution” you guys decided to implement, just so we will know exactly what is and isn’t a bug? Right now I seem to be unable to lose even more standings to the rogue drones. Should I report this? ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/257 "2020-10-16T20:12:33Z")
The solution is simple, no standing modifications with rogue drones in kspace anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Dior\_Ambraelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dior_ambraelle/32/393685_2.png) [@Dior\_Ambraelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dior_Ambraelle)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/258 "2020-10-16T21:09:07Z")
This sounds like an absolute overkill. To fix a problem that the players didn’t even recognize as a problem… ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/259 "2020-10-17T04:32:03Z")
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583/260 "2020-10-17T04:32:19Z")
As this issue has been resolved I’m closing the thread. Thank you. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-exploit-notification-rogue-drones-and-triglavian-standings/273583.md?page=12)