# Resource Redistribution Update

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** official, devblog\
**Created:** [September 25, 2020, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264 "2020-09-25T11:38:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3199 "2021-01-21T10:04:52Z")

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> [@Hlamon](#):
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> this is proclaimed CCP goal.

Sure, but at the same time it also needs to be enjoyable gameplay. And connecting the player with the main gameworld.

I could say you need to type captcha’s every 5 seconds to prove you are being attentive. By your definitions you have used so far that would be more attentive gameplay. But that would utterly disconnect you from the actual game, and be utterly unfun.

This is why I say minigames for mining are bad, because they do not meet the important tests, we need to find another way of achieving the attentive gameplay for mining that is not a minigame.

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**Author:** ![Hlamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hlamon/32/241936_2.png) [@Hlamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hlamon)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3200 "2021-01-21T10:10:57Z")

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I’m thinking more about mineral scanner and minigame similar to relic/data opening, with “analyzing” asteroid before “opening” it, with gradual bonus derived from solving the puzzle.

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3201 "2021-01-21T10:27:47Z")

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> [@Max\_Deveron](#):
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> unfortunately yall forget that mining lasers are a very low yield laser …

I was actually trying to take the piss, obviously need to be more obvious…

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3202 "2021-01-21T10:28:29Z")

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Then that can be enhanced with a % holowness. If a roid is 70% hollow, your yield will be 30% of the actual yield.  
The howloness is only accessible with a minigame scan on the roid.  
So you can cherrypick the roids to have the one with a low hollowness, or random pick the roids and thus have a % of yield lower. And shoot the hollow roids with guns or a DD.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3203 "2021-01-21T10:28:44Z")

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Im serious though.

It would be totally awesome.

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**Author:** ![Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tursiops_truncatus/32/232426_2.png) [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tursiops_Truncatus)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3204 "2021-01-21T22:53:04Z")

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Depending on your skill levels, in many areas, you get a bonus per level for cycle time and amount mined per cycle. You can not get these bonuses if you are not actively mining. If you are AFK mining you are not mining continuously which means that an active miner will out mine an inactive miner.

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**Author:** ![Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tursiops_truncatus/32/232426_2.png) [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tursiops_Truncatus)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3205 "2021-01-21T23:19:28Z")

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> [@Hlamon](#):
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> I’m talking about having more options. How having more options result in less enjoyable gameplay?

I’m not sure of your knowledge of mining or the amount of skill and time it takes to be a really efficient miner but CCP took options away from me and reduced my game play to a trit only dealer and replaced them with options that are unrealistic. I do not care for PVP or PVE in EVE and CCP took the only reason I played EVE from me. CCP is doing all of this because of the AFK players and BOT cheaters. I do not deserve to be tossed under the bus because CCP is to dumb to deal with AFK players and BOT cheaters without attacking those that don’t do anything wrong. I pay a monthly fee and CCP is taking advantage of the customer monthly fee to fix mistake that CCP and the BOT cheaters created. Not one discount offered to the players while CCP fixes their mistakes. So not only do I feel like CCP is attacking me for no wrong at all, I also feel like they are ripping me off and making me pay for CCP’s mistake.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3210 "2021-01-22T10:00:24Z")

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Maybe, but the attentive miner isnt likely to just leave his machine on all day though and periodically target a roid.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3223 "2021-01-23T11:29:59Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3224 "2021-01-23T11:30:09Z")

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Keep it civil and on topic. Next time I have to clean will result in moderation action being taken. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3225 "2021-01-23T11:38:28Z")

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**Author:** ![Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tursiops_truncatus/32/232426_2.png) [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tursiops_Truncatus)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3226 "2021-01-23T12:10:35Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Maybe, but the attentive miner isnt likely to just leave his machine on all day though and periodically target a roid.

Yes they will, when they can gate camp and do roams in null all day while their AFK miner brings in $200m to $300m in ISK or the gankers are out ganking alphas and pushing them out the game, they have their AFK miner or ratter earning them ISK. So yea, they would leave a machine on all day for that.

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**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3227 "2021-01-23T15:26:17Z")

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Man you just can not make a post without throwing the old " gankers target the children and make them quit" line can you? How about you fly a freighter and I’ll fly a venture through some .5 systems for awhile and we will see if the gankers want you or the poor little alpha ship. Look, I hate the idea of being ganked as much as the next guy, but I get it. The vast majority are in it for the money, not the 1:1 kill/loss of losing their 10 mil catalyst for your 300k venture.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3228 "2021-01-23T15:39:08Z")

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So they now have two accounts each in your example. The afk miners second account is mining while the roam is going on vOv

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**Author:** ![Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tursiops_truncatus/32/232426_2.png) [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tursiops_Truncatus)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3229 "2021-01-23T20:53:14Z")

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How many player style in EVE? The 2 most guilty player styles to AKF mine and rat is null alliance members and gankers.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3230 "2021-01-23T22:16:05Z")

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Ok? And?

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**Author:** ![Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tursiops_truncatus/32/232426_2.png) [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tursiops_Truncatus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3231 "2021-01-24T09:03:10Z")

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> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#):
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> Man you just can not make a post without throwing the old " gankers target the children and make them quit" line can you? How about you fly a freighter and I’ll fly a venture through some .5 systems for awhile and we will see if the gankers want you or the poor little alpha ship. Look, I hate the idea of being ganked as much as the next guy, but I get it. The vast majority are in it for the money, not the 1:1 kill/loss of losing their 10 mil catalyst for your 300k venture.

You gankers sure do cry a lot but that’s is typical of a bully.

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**Author:** ![Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tursiops_truncatus/32/232426_2.png) [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tursiops_Truncatus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3232 "2021-01-24T09:09:07Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Ok? And?

Gankers and the null alliance are the biggest AFK players in the game. If the miners are forced to suffer because of BOT CHEATERS and AFKERS, than the blame needs to be directed to those guilty of the crime. Innocent people should not be punished because of CCP’s mistakes or the undesirable game play of gankers and the big alliances. You not defending cheaters are yea?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3233 "2021-01-24T10:44:55Z")

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> [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](#):
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> You not defending cheaters are yea?

What?

Youll need to explain what that means before I can answer it.

What has it to do with AFK play making more isk than active playing?

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**Author:** ![Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tursiops_truncatus/32/232426_2.png) [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tursiops_Truncatus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resource-redistribution-update/269264/3234 "2021-01-24T11:10:06Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> What?
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> Youll need to explain what that means before I can answer it.
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> What has it to do with AFK play making more isk than active playing?

Are you defending cheaters? You seem a little salty that I am going after AFKERS and BOT CHEATERS just like CCP and most everyone on these forums. That is the narrative of CCP and the reasons for all of CCPS NERFS. If you are getting salty with me you must be a BOT CHEATER or are you one of those AFK miners that is to busy GANKING or doing work for your NULL sec alliance?

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