# Restore the original Incursion spawn rate and encourage Triglavians to interact with Sansha more **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [December 30, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051 "2019-12-30T02:08:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/1 "2019-12-30T02:08:54Z")
It has been awhile since incursions in highsec dropped from 3 spawns to only one single spawn. However sometimes you get the single spawn and an invasion in the same constellation/system, it is funny when it happens, and it caused me to have an idea. Why not allow incursions to spawn in 3 points at once like they used to, and keep the invasion spawns the same? And when they meet, which they will occasionally, have special sites where you have Incursion Sansha and Invasion Triglavian rats fighting each other, and your task is to kill both fleets or perhaps destroy crucial infrastructure for excellent rewards. That way you can buff highsec incursions to the level that they were, allowing newbie communities to form and do them, without the sandwich that can occur when you only have one spawn. And allow for the two factions to fight and for capsuleers to kill two birds with one stone. EDIT: The additional content is a bonus, the main argument that I have is to restore the incursion focus spawns to 3 at a time in highsec, if no extra content is added that is fine by me, but having 3 incursions at once + invasions allows for lots of content to be had by highsec residents across highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Wacky\_Wobbler\_Wibble](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wacky_wobbler_wibble/32/171062_2.png) [@Wacky\_Wobbler\_Wibble](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wacky_Wobbler_Wibble)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2019, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/2 "2019-12-30T12:30:17Z")
This is a terrible idea. There is no lore to support the Triglavians attacking Sansha’s and with current ship technology the Sansha’s nation would avoid the Triglavians, even be allied with them. Incursions are down to 1 spawn for a reason and if you can’t understand why then delete this post, this is the same as the previous post you made about bringing capital ships to high sec, always comes down to “rewards & ISK”. Triglavian ships would ROFLSTOMP Sansha’s ships and capitals. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/3 "2019-12-31T21:07:55Z")
> Incursions are down to 1 spawn for a reason and if you can’t understand why then delete this post, this is the same as the previous post you made about bringing capital ships to high sec, always comes down to “rewards & ISK”. Incursions are quite well balanced for highsec, the three spawn rate should be restored, allowing different highsec residents in different areas of highsec to have closer spawns to their home systems. > This is a terrible idea. There is no lore to support the Triglavians attacking Sansha’s and with current ship technology the Sansha’s nation would avoid the Triglavians, even be allied with them. I believe ccp mentioned the current war between the two and geo-political reasons for the spawn change. No reason why the war can’t be taken into highsec, especially since both factions are invading it to strengthen their positions. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Raid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_raid/32/217870_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Raid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Raid)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/4 "2020-01-10T10:12:01Z")
No lore? Not that I’ve looked it up myself but I thought the lore was triggys shooting sansha, which is why sansha reduced incursions?! ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/5 "2020-01-10T10:13:40Z")
> No lore? Not that I’ve looked it up myself but I thought the lore was triggys shooting sansha, which is why sansha reduced incursions?! Your correct, it was that exact same lore justification that reduced the spawns, no reason why their conflict can’t escalate into highsec and the spawns be returned to normal. ---
**Author:** ![Wacky\_Wobbler\_Wibble](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wacky_wobbler_wibble/32/171062_2.png) [@Wacky\_Wobbler\_Wibble](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wacky_Wobbler_Wibble)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/6 "2020-01-10T14:36:27Z")
lol you literally just jump on anything Both of you are idiots ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/7 "2020-01-10T14:40:15Z")
> lol you literally just jump on anything > > Both of you are idiots I fail to see how this adds to the conversation at hand. ---
**Author:** ![Wacky\_Wobbler\_Wibble](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wacky_wobbler_wibble/32/171062_2.png) [@Wacky\_Wobbler\_Wibble](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wacky_Wobbler_Wibble)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/8 "2020-01-10T15:09:19Z")
There is no lore, don;t u get it U just agree with anyone if u think it helps make ur post stronger i.e an idiot ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/9 "2020-01-10T15:20:02Z")
Check the patch notes when incursions were reduced, there is a small tidbit about sansha/triglav fighting and thus sansha scaled back their highsec incursions. ---
**Author:** ![Wacky\_Wobbler\_Wibble](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wacky_wobbler_wibble/32/171062_2.png) [@Wacky\_Wobbler\_Wibble](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wacky_Wobbler_Wibble)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/10 "2020-01-10T15:26:37Z")
Cant find ■■■■ about that, proof or stfu ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/11 "2020-01-10T17:55:50Z")
> **[Triglavian Invasion](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/360005796699-Triglavian-Invasion)** > > A hostile invasion of known space is underway by the Triglavian Collective. CONCORD urges all Capsuleers to mobilize and push back the invaders, to investigate the invaded systems, examine the abys... It’s at the bottom, last sentence. Try to use google better this took me a minute to bring up. ---
**Author:** ![hinzee\_Jsons](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hinzee_jsons/32/179984_2.png) [@hinzee\_Jsons](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hinzee_Jsons)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/12 "2020-01-14T23:35:27Z")
The Incursion community does still feel cheated by the nerf that CCP was too scared to put in the patch notes. Bring back our Incursion spawns. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/13 "2020-01-14T23:49:16Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > where you have Incursion Sansha and Invasion Triglavian rats fighting each other, How cool would that be, even with no players logged in the server could have a load percentage while the NPCs fight each other. Astounding. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/14 "2020-01-15T01:19:15Z")
> How cool would that be, even with no players logged in the server could have a load percentage while the NPCs fight each other. > > Astounding. Hmm, maybe you should log in and shoot them then? ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/15 "2020-01-15T02:47:34Z")
So it would be the players job to clean up pointless server load? ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/16 "2020-01-15T15:02:03Z")
> So it would be the players job to clean up pointless server load? The sites have both incursion and invasion rats, I don’t see where the pointless server load comes into play. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/17 "2020-01-15T15:04:06Z")
OP wants them to make it so they fight each other, without players. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/18 "2020-01-15T15:05:35Z")
> OP wants them to make it so they fight each other, without players. Yup, you warp into the site and you have two large fleets shooting at each other, your job will be to kill them both. Similar to the new trig dread sites, but this time instead of choosing a path the path is to shoot both sides at once. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/restore-the-original-incursion-spawn-rate-and-encourage-triglavians-to-interact-with-sansha-more/209051/19 "2020-04-14T15:14:35Z")
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