# Return on investment (cost recovery measure) **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [September 27, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/return-on-investment-cost-recovery-measure/329974 "2021-09-27T16:55:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Complex\_Math](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/complex_math/32/378387_2.png) [@Complex\_Math](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Complex_Math)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/return-on-investment-cost-recovery-measure/329974/1 "2021-09-27T16:55:53Z")
Okay, I’m pretty sure this exists somewhere, but I’m struggling to locate it. I’ve seen a number of sites that give isk/hour for various activities in Eve- and those are great, but they don’t take into account cost of ship+equipment. For instance, 50 million isk/hour sounds great to me, but then I see it requires 1.5 billion ship+equipment; suggesting that set-up needs 30 hours to get my investment back. I’d love to see some ship/activity combinations where the time to recover the cost of equipment is \<2 hours (under 1 hour would be amazing- but probably not realistic). Does anyone know if such a resource exists? I’m sure others have thought about this long before me. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/return-on-investment-cost-recovery-measure/329974/2 "2021-09-27T20:32:30Z")
Last I checked cherry picking mercoxit ore would fit that criteria. Morphite crashed a bit since then but I think it still pays for the barge 😃 Similarly, a good moon will also pay back your barge in short order. Gas huffing is also a good ROI. Even myko is like 30m/hour and a venture or prospect will pay itself off quickly. Nullsec exploration also pays out nicely in Guristas/Sanshas space but that doesn’t scale well. ---
**Author:** ![JayEm\_HighCastle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayem_highcastle/32/395581_2.png) [@JayEm\_HighCastle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JayEm_HighCastle)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/return-on-investment-cost-recovery-measure/329974/3 "2021-09-27T20:45:04Z")
Don’t just look at the rewards. Consider the risks. Lowsec and Null are dangerous. Sooner or later you **will** lose a ship. Can you accept that? Will you rage quit? Can you afford to replace it quickly? Can you afford to replace 2-3-4 ships in a short period of time? It’s not all gold out there. ---
**Author:** ![Complex\_Math](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/complex_math/32/378387_2.png) [@Complex\_Math](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Complex_Math)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/return-on-investment-cost-recovery-measure/329974/4 "2021-09-27T21:44:37Z")
I think this comment is key for me. I don’t mind losing a ship here or there as long as it’s easy to make it back. The key part for me is- it’s hard to find the activities that’ll make back the cost of the ship so quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/return-on-investment-cost-recovery-measure/329974/5 "2021-09-28T02:58:19Z")
stick to activities that will not require an expensive ship, or a large ship, until you get comfortable using that particular ship, then work on moving up… you can try exploring, which can net good isk. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/return-on-investment-cost-recovery-measure/329974/6 "2021-12-27T02:58:36Z")
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