# Returning after 4 years

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-after-4-years/25089>\
**Category:** New Citizens Q&A\
**Created:** [September 17, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-after-4-years/25089 "2017-09-17T00:21:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Mr\_Jinggles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_jinggles/32/31528_2.png) [@Mr\_Jinggles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Jinggles)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-after-4-years/25089/1 "2017-09-17T00:21:41Z")

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And it’s all a bit overload.

Quick questions:

1. I got 5mil from a GM apparently for ‘T3 skills’? The ISK is irrelevant but what’s that about?
2. I logged in inside a cruiser which I don’t have the skills to fly, apparently I no longer have Minmatar Cruiser skills - what?
3. What sort of SP are we looking at for wormhole pvp?

Cheers

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**Author:** ![Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vortexo_vonbrenner/32/64874_2.png) [@Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vortexo_VonBrenner)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-after-4-years/25089/2 "2017-09-17T03:09:31Z")

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1 - they changed T3s a bit back, those are refunded SP.

2- If you are an alpha clone (free to play) you can only use ships from the race you were born from and even then can only use some skills. Higher-level skills you may have trained previously are locked until you subscribe again.

WB

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**Author:** ![Kara\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kara_silver/32/20813_2.png) [@Kara\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kara_Silver)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-after-4-years/25089/3 "2017-09-17T03:52:07Z")

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Ccp removed some skills refunded isk for skill books and sp for skills trained.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Jinggles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_jinggles/32/31528_2.png) [@Mr\_Jinggles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Jinggles)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-after-4-years/25089/4 "2017-09-17T10:41:06Z")

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Okay cool thanks for the info.

Another question… My main is -10 security. Are people living in and pvping out of wormholes -10? Or does it not really matter?

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Stall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_stall/32/12239_2.png) [@ISD\_Stall](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Stall)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-after-4-years/25089/5 "2017-09-17T11:03:44Z")

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You may want to look at this website [https://updates.eveonline.com](https://updates.eveonline.com) if you haven’t already to get a bit of information on previous updates.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/517479_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-after-4-years/25089/6 "2017-09-18T05:25:36Z")

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Welcome back to Eve,

The only time your personal security status matters is when you’re in High Sec systems.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-after-4-years/25089/7 "2017-09-18T05:58:55Z")

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> [@Mr\_Jinggles](#):
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> My main is -10 security. Are people living in and pvping out of wormholes -10? Or does it not really matter?

The only time your sec status really matters is if you want to operate in highsec.

A little for lowsec too, but for both nullsec and wormhole space, your sec status is pretty much irrelevant to the pvp. People will attack you whether you are +10 or -10. Makes no difference.

If you are day tripping out of wormholes and are in lowsec, then the -10 status can be great at encouraging people to attack you on gates, but otherwise, if you want to control the start of engagements, just don’t hang around on gates too long. Again, in nullsec it is irrelevant either way.

Welcome back.

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**Author:** ![system1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system1)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-after-4-years/25089/8 "2017-12-17T05:59:08Z")

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