# Returning player: LF for guidance on PVE progression L5+

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For lv4s check out burner missions, I’d expect around 200mil/hr. Main ships are the Machariel, a few cruisers for the bases, and a bunch of frigates for the rest.

This first thread has a pretty good overview and covers most of what you need to know.

> **[Blitz and Burner Guide v1.2.3](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974)**
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> New forum, new thread! A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3 I haven't run burners in a while but I did give a few of them a go today and they still seem fine from what I can tell. Still, always...

And this thread has a bunch of alternate fits.

> **[Burner Mission - Ship advice to solo them including fittings](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580)**
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> Burner mission guide Update 25.08.2017 As of 24th August 2017 Patch Notes Burner mission seem to be fixed. Procede with caution and check this for more updates Anomic Missions STEALTH Buffed without any warning! Full Burner mission guide with more...

and check the forums after patch day, often something gets broken and that typically gets posted in one of those threads.

For carrier ratting best to join with one of the big null groups as they have a lot of well protected space where you can rat. Lv5s I think most runners do carrier blitzing not sure how hostile the areas are though. I’ve heard a lot of good about WH ratting, but no idea what the income/safety levels are. Have also heard good things about FW mission blitzing.

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