# Returning player Polarized Weapons, How do you tank with no resists? **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [November 17, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185 "2018-11-17T15:23:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/21 "2018-11-19T22:30:29Z")
> [@techzer0](#): > > They do it to T3 cruisers pretty often. Guess you’re wrong…again. Plural, or singular? Remember that a single awox and that infiltration is over. They’ve been outed, and they aren’t going to be able to awox that alliance again. If they’re wasting their awox on a T2 cruiser, they’ve got major intelligence issues. And I honestly do not believe that they’d waste it on a T3C. There are _way_ better targets. > [@techzer0](#): > > Like I said. I mean… if you want to keep quoting the same inane argument over and over again, in spite of it’s lack of relevance to the actual topic, I can do that too… it’s not a very productive argument though. Instanced is instanced. The player is completely sheltered while they’re in the site, with literally no risk coming from other players. If they do it right, there won’t be anyone waiting for them when they exit (or at the very least, you’ll have logistics on hand to keep you from dying while the response fleet deals with things). Relative to actual sandboxed content, that is a net loss in gameplay. ---
**Author:** ![techzer0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/techzer0/32/101314_2.png) [@techzer0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/techzer0)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/22 "2018-11-19T22:33:08Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Plural, or singular? > **[zkillboard.com / Home](https://zkillboard.com/)** > > zkillboard.com is a killboard for the Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG) EVE-Online. But but but awoxing never happens to cruisers…lol wrecked. 🤣 > [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Instanced is instanced. Not instanced when they exit and completely open to a gank or a kill. So instanced is not relevant. We can keep going inane bleah bleah. 🤣 > [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Relative to actual sandboxed content, that is a net loss in gameplay. Just in your head. Until… > [@techzer0](#): > > AND AGAIN… When they make the abyss accessible from a station that you never have to undock from then ill jump on the “instance whine” bandwagon. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/23 "2018-11-19T22:39:43Z")
> [@techzer0](#): > > lol wrecked. Did you actually look at any of those losses? Cause I just did, and virtually all of them have nothign to do with legitimate awox. The ones that do look like awox are against capitals. Such as this one: > **[Maulus Navy Issue | tarnia coates | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/73571548/)** > > tarnia coates (prime coates Manufacture Corporation) lost their Maulus Navy Issue in Olettiers (Sinq Laison) Total Value: 227,911,878.94 ISK Of course… I do see one where a frigate with a cyno got blapped by a loki. Except… there’s no loki loss, so clearly no awox happened - likely the dude lit himself a cyno, bridged in, and blapped the cyno. > **[Crow | Ivan Russkiy | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/73567806/)** > > Ivan Russkiy (6 Group) lost their Crow in EF-QZK (Perrigen Falls) Total Value: 39,830,413.10 ISK Wrecked indeed! ---
**Author:** ![techzer0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/techzer0/32/101314_2.png) [@techzer0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/techzer0)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/24 "2018-11-19T22:50:31Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Did you actually look at any of those losses? Yep…and quite a few cruisers getting awoxed. Cool that you posted frigs when we weren’t talking about frigates. > **[Vexor Navy Issue | Grod Hakaari | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/73514731/)** > > Grod Hakaari (Bandits Gaming community) lost their Vexor Navy Issue in PKG4-7 (Branch). Final Blow by Wai Mne (Bandits Gaming community) flying in a Machariel. Total Value: 116,888,022.30 ISK So this magically is no longer a cruiser because??? So um yeah? Whatever dude…you do you. Lie to yourself and keep crying and whining about something that isn’t a problem. Fact remains that Abyssal instanced playing doesn’t hurt the sandbox at all. Well at least until… > [@techzer0](#): > > AND AGAIN… When they make the abyss accessible from a station that you never have to undock from then ill jump on the “instance whine” bandwagon. Done arguing with you. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/25 "2018-11-19T22:51:26Z")
You are ■■■■■■■ stupid. Look at what did the damage? Dude got killed by a SB ratting mach. He clearly warped to the wrong site. Not to mention, no point and no cyno. Do you even think before you post this ■■■■? ---
**Author:** ![techzer0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/techzer0/32/101314_2.png) [@techzer0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/techzer0)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/26 "2018-11-19T23:02:46Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > You are ■■■■■■■ stupid. Proven wrong so you start name calling? Not very original. I didn’t look at the killmail. Why would I? I said cruisers are killed by awoxers. They are. Stop being a whiny ■■■■■. Don’t like it? Quit. It isn’t going away. Oh and… > [@techzer0](#): > > AND AGAIN… When they make the abyss accessible from a station that you never have to undock from then ill jump on the “instance whine” bandwagon. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/27 "2018-11-19T23:04:23Z")
> [@techzer0](#): > > Proven wrong so you start name calling? What did you prove? That a VNI warped into a pair of machs that were smartbombing and ate ■■■■? How is that a real awox? Just because the cruiser died to blues doesn’t mean it’s an awox. An awox is when someone infiltrates a group and sets up a kill. Not “hurr I just warped to the wrong site, RIP me”. As you’ve asserted that a legitimate awox will be committed against a T3C, you go ahead and find an actual awox. Of any cruiser even. A real one this time though. > [@techzer0](#): > > Oh and… Just as inane as before. ---
**Author:** ![techzer0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/techzer0/32/101314_2.png) [@techzer0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/techzer0)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/28 "2018-11-19T23:09:52Z")
Get back to me when you actually have a presence on the killboard at all. Currently you don’t even exist. You’re just some troll that likes to lie about things you know nothing about. Are you Salvos? You need 100% evidence of a kill on a cruiser from an Awoxer? I got you ■■■■■. > **[Tengu | Ildryn | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/12633281/)** > > Ildryn (The Inf1dels) lost their Tengu in GJ0-OJ (Catch). Final Blow by MacQueen (Sniggerdly) flying in a Vagabond. Total Value: 1,183,498,539.17 ISK Steve Wilkos was a blue. Personal experience. I win. You’re a ■■■■■. All is right in the world. And… > [@techzer0](#): > > AND AGAIN… When they make the abyss accessible from a station that you never have to undock from then ill jump on the “instance whine” bandwagon. Just because you don’t like that something is right doesn’t make it inane. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/29 "2018-11-19T23:18:26Z")
> [@techzer0](#): > > Get back to me when you actually have a presence on the killboard at all. Oh I’m sorry… you just realized that your argument is utterly stupid, so you resort to argumentative fallacies to fall back on? Attack the argument, if you can. I know you can’t, you know you can’t, so instead you fall back on that. There is absolutely nothing incorrect about what I’ve said. Which brings me back to: > [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > You are ■■■■■■■ stupid. > [@techzer0](#): > > Steve Wilkos was a blue. Personal experience. Right… he was blue to you. I can’t help but notice though that the tengu and the hurricane (steve wilkos) are in different alliances. Were you blue to him? I’ve killed people before who were screaming in local that they were blues, yet they were neutral to me. At the end of the day, their leaders forgot to reset the people that needed to be reset (us). That you had to go back 8 _years_ to get even one plausible example is both horrifying and funny at the same time. > [@techzer0](#): > > Just because you don’t like that something is right doesn’t make it inane. You’re right, it doesn’t matter if I like it or not. It’s quite simply inane regardless of my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![techzer0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/techzer0/32/101314_2.png) [@techzer0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/techzer0)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/30 "2018-11-19T23:21:55Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Oh I’m sorry And rightfully so. Maybe play the game you sit and whine about all day before you sit and whine about it all day. > [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > You’re right I usually am. I was the one of the guys awoxing dipshit. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/31 "2018-11-19T23:25:58Z")
There it is. Your complete lack of any further argument has lead to outright troll posting. It’s okay, not everyone gets to be an astronaut when they grow up. The world still needs burger flippers too. So lets go back to your original assertion: > [@techzer0](#): > > They do it to T3 cruisers pretty often. > Pretty often Yea… you’ve got one example **from 8 years ago**. When the game was an entirely different thing, and it was a much more likely case to awox a T3C because not only were they less common, but they were twice the price (and that’s before we start looking at what isk was worth then compared to now). What happened to the pretty often part? ■■■■, I’d settle for one in the last few months. ---
**Author:** ![techzer0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/techzer0/32/101314_2.png) [@techzer0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/techzer0)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/32 "2018-11-19T23:27:15Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > I’d settle for one in the last few months. When you actually play the game get back to me. Until then you’re just some troll that whines about instancing in a game you don’t play or know anything about. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/33 "2018-11-19T23:28:13Z")
> [@techzer0](#): > > When you actually play the game get back to me. Until then you’re just some troll that whines about instancing in a game you don’t play or know anything about. I play nearly every day. Once again, you have no way to attack my argument because you’re flat out wrong. So you try to side-step the fact that you have no footing, by trying to attack me instead. It’s time for me to go be a dad for a while - feel free to answer, if you can, I’ll get back to you when I’m free. In the meantime, a little light reading for you: > **[Ad hominem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem)** > > Ad hominem (Latin for 'to the person'), short for argumentum ad hominem, refers to several types of arguments, most of which are fallacious. Typically this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a personal attack as a diversion often using a totally irrelevant, but often highly charged attribut... ---
**Author:** ![techzer0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/techzer0/32/101314_2.png) [@techzer0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/techzer0)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/34 "2018-11-19T23:35:25Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > I play nearly every day. Zero presence on the killboard proves otherwise. > [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > Once again, you have no way to attack my argument I did above and won. CCP even agrees that this content is good. Only a bunch of trolls are complaining about it. > [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > So you try to side-step No i brought additional information like you have 0 presence on the killboard and you’re a whiny ■■■■■. Additional information is not side stepping. I just added information proving you a liar. You attacked me first dipshit. Now you can’t handle it? Grow up ■■■■■. 🤣 > [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > I’d settle for one in the last few months. > **[Legion | Meta Proxy | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/73522759/)** > > Meta Proxy (Incarnare) lost their Legion in RUF3-O (Malpais) Total Value: 410,118,814.29 ISK > **[Tengu | capercaillie | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/73476564/)** > > capercaillie (Sacred Inquisition) lost their Tengu in 9SBB-9 (Querious). Final Blow by pivowarsuk (Sacred Inquisition) flying in a Widow. Total Value: 1,543,212,593.77 ISK Now settle. 😏 > **[Argument from fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy)** > > Argument from fallacy is the formal fallacy of analyzing an argument and inferring that, since it contains a fallacy, its conclusion must be false. It is also called argument to logic (argumentum ad logicam), the fallacy fallacy, the fallacist's fallacy, and the bad reasons fallacy. > It has the general argument form: > If P, then Q. > P is a fallacious argument. > Therefore, Q is false. > Thus, it is a special case of denying the antecedent where the antecedent, rather than being a proposition that is... ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/35 "2018-11-20T02:33:47Z")
Please. As much as I agree with you on the fact people are whinning for the pleasure of whinning, and as much as I think oldpervert is a bitch, you should keep civil becasue you are not bringing constructive discussion to the topic. The topic started interesting, after that people come to whine, and you go buttfirst in the troll. so. Just keep the “wrecked” or other childish allusions /me is sad that an interesting thread got derailed again. ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Khalifa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_khalifa/32/109552_2.png) [@Sienna\_Khalifa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Khalifa)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/36 "2018-11-20T04:31:36Z")
going back into topic: these weapons are supposedly designed to make you into a Glass Cannon. so, stacking defenses sounds counterproductive. so as the other’s said early in the thread, its going with extreme repping capabilities or being agile/low sig to skip enemy firepower. buffer tank gimps your speed or makes you receive more punch than what your hitpoints can support so i guess they’re a no no unless you’re in fleet with a logi doing the repping for you. also those weapons look really expensive. ---
**Author:** ![Sebs\_Pride](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebs_pride/32/181192_2.png) [@Sebs\_Pride](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebs_Pride)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/37 "2018-11-20T05:06:54Z")
I see polarize navy omens a lot back when I played a year ago. If you would warp into its plex rep fitted, he would just melt you. But we started killing him when we switched to buffer fitted omen to counter him, real one trick pony. ---
**Author:** ![Dracoknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracoknight/32/72703_2.png) [@Dracoknight](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracoknight)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/38 "2018-11-20T09:39:41Z")
So we went from Polarized modules, to polarized opinions? Whats up with Null-dwellers crying when highsec get new toys? I suppose highsec 2.0 (a.k.a Null ) have grown so dull that they try to herd the carebears out of Concord areas. Anyway havent given the polarized modules a toss yet, i barely stay alive otherwise, maybe i give it a try with a bomber and see if that does the trick? ---
**Author:** ![Mortis\_Betruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortis_betruger/32/369990_2.png) [@Mortis\_Betruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortis_Betruger)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/39 "2018-11-20T13:32:56Z")
OP here I just wanted to know how to tank with these new weapons, I came back after 4 years. This thread reminds me of how the forums used to be when it was fun to read about everybody arguing about this or that. From what I see after being gone for 4 years is that PC culture has made its way in to Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185/40 "2018-11-20T15:46:57Z")
> [@techzer0](#): > > Zero presence on the killboard proves otherwise. Zero presence on the killboard proves nothing. I could be an industrial player, I could be a market player. Or I could be posting from my market alt. > [@techzer0](#): > > I did above and won. CCP even agrees that this content is good. You stated that awoxers hit T3Cs often. And to justify that you linked a kill from 8 years ago. Try again. As for the abyssal content, of course they think their own stuff is good. > [@techzer0](#): > > No i brought additional information like you have 0 presence on the killboard and you’re a whiny ■■■■■. I create discourse about something that I don’t like. That is the purpose of the forums. You again fixate on something with zero relevance, attempting to use ad hominem in place of a legitimate argument. > [@techzer0](#): > > You attacked me first dipshit. Now you can’t handle it? Grow up ■■■■■ Oh I can handle it just fine, I have been the entire time. Not my fault your argumentation skills are ■■■■. Imagine for example, this analogy. A blind man argues that the sky is blue and provides reasoning (Rayleigh scattering, nitrogen atmosphere, etc). You state that because he’s blind he doesn’t know what he’s talking about and must be wrong. The argument itself was never even addressed, and instead the opponent incorrectly attempts to discredit the person making the argument. As for your KMs, the legion might be an awox. Look at the tengu though… 599 damage - he clearly hit himself with a smartbomb once while clearing the site and wiped. Do you even know what you’re looking for here or are you just randomly linking kills and assuming that they’re awoxes because zkill says they might be? And again, what part of this is often? > [@techzer0](#): > > Argument from fallacy Except my argument contains no fallacy. I’m not saying that because you use ad hominem fallacies your argument is false. I’m saying that up until that legion kill you linked, your only evidence to support “awoxers kill T3Cs often” was a KM from 8 years ago. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-polarized-weapons-how-do-you-tank-with-no-resists/121185.md?page=3)