# Returning Tengu pilot: advice for L4 missile ship after 7 years

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**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [November 9, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-tengu-pilot-advice-for-l4-missile-ship-after-7-years/119352 "2018-11-09T12:58:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fluffy\_Moe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fluffy_moe/32/11132_2.png) [@Fluffy\_Moe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fluffy_Moe)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-tengu-pilot-advice-for-l4-missile-ship-after-7-years/119352/21 "2018-11-11T21:08:58Z")

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> [@WolfeReign](#):
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> I’m pretty sure auto missiles and precision are specific to Light/Heavy/Cruise missiles. The issue with heavy missiles is that they just do not put out enough damage (though their range is great). If your not using HAMs on the Tengu then your better off using a Gila because it will do more damage. I posted my fit earlier but I prefer to use 2 Guidance computers because it’s more flexible in choosing more range or more precision. In most sites the HAM range isn’t going to be much of an issue.

HAMs do have something, I forgot what, but there are 2 T2 variants + faction. The faction missiles can actually be pretty good too the DPS loss is minimal while the application rises quite a bit. And other then high DPS whats the other T2 variant , is it precision ? Range ? I know I used all 4 before quite extensively, both T2 ammo types as well as auto and faction. Sorry am not in game right now and won’t be for a while.

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**Author:** ![Zhilia\_Mann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhilia_mann/32/214674_2.png) [@Zhilia\_Mann](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhilia_Mann)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-tengu-pilot-advice-for-l4-missile-ship-after-7-years/119352/22 "2018-11-13T09:53:02Z")

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> [@Fluffy\_Moe](#):
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> And other then high DPS whats the other T2 variant , is it precision ? Range ?

Range, yes. Application on javelin (range T2) is worse than faction but better than rage (damage T2).

Javelin is an absolute must-have on Loki missile fits since it lacks the range bonus on the Tengu. On the Tengu… not so much. If you build around a few MGCs you can adjust range/application pretty effectively just using faction (and rage when you just need to nuke something).

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-tengu-pilot-advice-for-l4-missile-ship-after-7-years/119352/23 "2019-02-11T09:53:06Z")

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