# Returning to the game and looking for market advice

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-to-the-game-and-looking-for-market-advice/40709>\
**Category:** Market Discussions\
**Created:** [November 20, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-to-the-game-and-looking-for-market-advice/40709 "2017-11-20T15:01:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leesal\_Delsa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leesal_delsa/32/381339_2.png) [@Leesal\_Delsa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leesal_Delsa)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-to-the-game-and-looking-for-market-advice/40709/1 "2017-11-20T15:01:51Z")

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I’m returning after a while gone.

My story is easy, on and off Null player, I no longer have time for null as it seems RL takes over. In the mean time I have grown an interest in playing the markets. I want to buy and sell goods and do well at it. So I am looking for any and all tools I could use. I am willing to spreadsheet but since I have been going with out a community I am at a loss as to how this game even plays anymore. Any and all help is much appreciated.

Thank you guys

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**Author:** ![CistaCista](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cistacista/32/482254_2.png) [@CistaCista](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CistaCista)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-to-the-game-and-looking-for-market-advice/40709/2 "2017-11-20T17:32:15Z")

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Spreadsheets are not essential, but having a nose for the market is essential:

- Don’t invest too much in one item, spread out to maybe 20 items for a start
- Profitability of an item is the product of (size of margin \* turnover). Or more simply, in the long term (price \* turnover) but with profitability being downsized by competition.
- Try to learn (and predict) the cyclical nature of prices
- Decide how you will deal with those that update their orders every 5 minutes. a) do the same, b) wait them out, or c) make your own prices.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-to-the-game-and-looking-for-market-advice/40709/3 "2018-02-18T17:32:16Z")

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