# Returning vet after long (5+ years) absence: HAC/Cruiser du jour? **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [July 8, 2020, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644 "2020-07-08T00:14:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bumblefck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bumblefck/32/217299_2.png) [@Bumblefck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bumblefck)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/1 "2020-07-08T00:14:50Z")
Title says it all - have returned to the game (but not forum warrioring yet!), and looking at getting back into cruiser solo pvp. Assume that I know nothing or next to nothing about the current state of ships, as I’m fairly sure things have been changed almost beyond recognition since 2015…what cruiser sized hull would be good for soloing in low sec? Assume that I can fly and fit anything (except for the new stuff) 🙂 Fittings would also be appreciated - thanks for your time! o/ Bumble ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/2 "2020-07-08T08:44:46Z")
My Raven was equipped with the following: HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x ‘HYPHNOS’ ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I ---
**Author:** ![Hink\_Yaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hink_yaken/32/247042_2.png) [@Hink\_Yaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hink_Yaken)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/3 "2020-07-08T08:59:21Z")
People like to blop you, so you need something that can keep its range, so you can moonwalk out. Great cruisers are Stabbers (cheap), Orthrus, Omen Navi Issue. T3Cs are good but expensive. The Kikimora is a super strong new ship and you should skill it. Selflink kity BC can work (rail Brutix, drek) ---
**Author:** ![Bumblefck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bumblefck/32/217299_2.png) [@Bumblefck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bumblefck)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/4 "2020-07-08T12:13:20Z")
Ahaha yes indeed The oldie fits are the best o7 ---
**Author:** ![Bumblefck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bumblefck/32/217299_2.png) [@Bumblefck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bumblefck)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/5 "2020-07-08T13:52:03Z")
Great advice, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/6 "2020-07-09T10:38:42Z")
Why are you running shield and armour tank? You’re sacrificed damage bonus modules to get dual tank. ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/7 "2020-07-09T10:44:39Z")
Basic Spiderfleet HAC. Est. 853.2m [Ikitursa, rr] Reactive Armor Hardener Entropic Radiation Sink II Syndicate 1600mm Steel Plates Coreli A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Corpum B-Type Energized Kinetic Membrane Assault Damage Control II Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner 50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler Thukker Medium Cap Battery Heavy Entropic Disintegrator II Coreli A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer Coreli A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer Coreli A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Acolyte II x5 Infiltrator II x5 Occult M x500 Add T1 ammo for Rats, and maybe remove remote reps foe neuts. But have a play with the fit till you get what suits you. Though word of warning the Trig HAC can get well into the 8bil mark depending on your fit, and easily handle T3TC one on one. ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/8 "2020-07-09T10:48:07Z")
Yip a well fitted Drek is a deadly beast. Est. 473.7m [Drekavac, Drekavac-Fleet] Corpum C-Type Energized Explosive Membrane 800mm Steel Plates II Damage Control II Coreli A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Corpum C-Type Energized Kinetic Membrane Reactive Armor Hardener Coreli A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Cap Recharger II 50MN Microwarpdrive II Cap Recharger II Tracking Computer II Armor Command Burst II Information Command Burst II Veles Heavy Entropic Disintegrator Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Thermal Armor Reinforcer II Medium Command Processor I Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Hornet II x6 Light Hull Maintenance Bot I x1 Medium Armor Maintenance Bot II x3 Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x1 Salvage Drone I x5 Acolyte II x5 Optimal Range Script x1 Tracking Speed Script x1 Tetryon Exotic Plasma M x1709 Armor Energizing Charge x492 Rapid Repair Charge x297 Sensor Optimization Charge x294 Electronic Hardening Charge x503 Meson Exotic Plasma M x1457 Occult M x457 ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/9 "2020-07-09T12:21:12Z")
you are to young little padawan. just google the first phrase. ---
**Author:** ![Hexelen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hexelen/32/482045_2.png) [@Hexelen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hexelen)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/10 "2020-07-09T15:16:07Z")
Judging by recent Cruiser group KB stats, Osprey Navy Issue might be worth trying, if 80-200M is in your price range. I don’t have missile skills myself, but the fits that handle everything from frigates to HACs typically include RLML and Neuts in the highslots, Nanos and BCSs in the lows, and a mix of buffer and injected shield tank. You could probably first go with Caracal if you wanted a cheap approximation of the same experience. ---
**Author:** ![Bumblefck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bumblefck/32/217299_2.png) [@Bumblefck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bumblefck)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/11 "2020-07-09T22:21:35Z")
That is a clear, concise suggestion - thank you very much, in particular for the generalised fitting advice. Bumble appreciates it! ---
**Author:** ![Atheos\_Athonille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/atheos_athonille/32/305205_2.png) [@Atheos\_Athonille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Atheos_Athonille)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/12 "2020-09-06T06:15:32Z")
Just use a barghast and Alpha ■■■■ from 300km away ---
**Author:** ![Wyk\_Bathana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wyk_bathana/32/374287_2.png) [@Wyk\_Bathana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wyk_Bathana)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/13 "2020-09-06T09:12:22Z")
OP asked for cruiser for solo pvp so, even if he got good advices, kiki (dessie) brutix and drekavacs (bcs) raven and barghest (BS) and some “spider” fits (which means RR and therefore no solo, right?) are not the answer he was looking for 😉 😉 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rhayn\_Rowe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhayn_rowe/32/405925_2.png) [@Rhayn\_Rowe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhayn_Rowe)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/14 "2020-09-06T23:53:50Z")
If you’re good, T3Cs (Loki/Legion) due to being able to do anything. If you’re flying fleets, HACs (Munnin). If you want pve too, T3Cs (Tengu). If you want to go to null or want to reduce losses from unavoidable blobs/gatecamps etc, T1 cruisers (Thorax for blapping before alts arrive or RLM Caracal for anti-frig/dessie). ---
**Author:** ![Lloyd\_Roses](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lloyd_roses/32/244283_2.png) [@Lloyd\_Roses](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lloyd_Roses)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/15 "2020-09-07T08:37:26Z")
While Arbitrators are certainly menacing, you can do some funky stuff. ASB boosts you from 10% back to 100%, DCU for a bit of buffer, once ASB ran through, offline ASB, inject cap, online plate. Can also swap MWD for 10mn AB, meta DCU and cap booster and fit 2 rapid lights instead of rockets. > [Arbitrator, it’s dying!] > > 1600mm Crystalline Carbonide Restrained Plates /OFFLINE > Damage Control II > Drone Damage Amplifier II > Drone Damage Amplifier II > Drone Damage Amplifier II > > X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster > Medium Capacitor Booster II > 50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive > Initiated Compact Warp Scrambler > > Small Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer > Small Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer > Rocket Launcher II > Rocket Launcher II > > Medium EM Shield Reinforcer I > Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I > Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I > > Acolyte II x5 > Acolyte II x2 > Hammerhead II x5 > Hammerhead II x1 > Hornet EC-300 x5 > Warrior II x5 > Warrior II x1 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-vet-after-long-5-years-absence-hac-cruiser-du-jour/253644/16 "2020-12-06T08:37:30Z")
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