# Risk / Reward in Suicide Ganking out of Order? **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [March 28, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731 "2021-03-28T17:42:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Adunh\_Slavy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adunh_slavy/32/265310_2.png) [@Adunh\_Slavy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adunh_Slavy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/141 "2021-04-05T16:12:14Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Stop making so many Ad hominem arguments. Those are not ‘Ad hominem’ arguments either. Go look it up. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/142 "2021-04-05T16:48:06Z")
> [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > There are more ways to balance ‘it’ than changing the code ya know. I’m sure how escapes you. The fact you want to avoid answering the question, of if you have any remorse or empathy, explains why it escapes you. But you agree that _something_ has to change in order for it to be balanced, right? ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/143 "2021-04-05T16:48:24Z")
> [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > Those are not ‘Ad hominem’ arguments either. Go look it up. I did, They are. You are making Ad hominem attacks. Go look it up yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Adunh\_Slavy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adunh_slavy/32/265310_2.png) [@Adunh\_Slavy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adunh_Slavy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/144 "2021-04-05T16:50:24Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > But you agree that _something_ has to change in order for it to be balanced, right? That seems obvious, if things are out of balance, then something needs to change to get in balance. As yet, you’ve not determined what that thing is. Why do you keep avoiding the questions about remorse and empathy? ---
**Author:** ![Adunh\_Slavy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adunh_slavy/32/265310_2.png) [@Adunh\_Slavy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adunh_Slavy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/145 "2021-04-05T16:51:04Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > I did, They are. You are making Ad hominem attacks. Go look it up yourself. Oy, go look up red-herring. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/146 "2021-04-05T16:51:35Z")
> [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > Show me where I suggested changing the game > [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > That seems obvious, if things are out of balance, then something needs to change to get in balance. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/147 "2021-04-05T16:52:49Z")
> [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > Why do you keep avoiding the questions about remorse and empathy? I told you. I have no remorse for dishonest arguers like you. > [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > Oy, go look up red-herring. I did. I didnt commit any red herring arguments. You did commit ad hominem attacks, though. Go look up Ad Hominem. ---
**Author:** ![Adunh\_Slavy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adunh_slavy/32/265310_2.png) [@Adunh\_Slavy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adunh_Slavy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/148 "2021-04-05T16:53:15Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Your bias is exposed again. Might want to cover that up. ---
**Author:** ![Adunh\_Slavy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adunh_slavy/32/265310_2.png) [@Adunh\_Slavy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adunh_Slavy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/149 "2021-04-05T16:54:00Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > I told you. I have no remorse for dishonest arguers like you. Yet you keep coming back for more. How come? ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/150 "2021-04-05T17:42:31Z")
> [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > Your bias is exposed again. Might want to cover that up. I just proved you were wrong. So yes, I am biased towards the truth. Nothing wrong with that. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/151 "2021-04-05T17:43:28Z")
> [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > Yet you keep coming back for more. How come? Because im a nice guy. ---
**Author:** ![Adunh\_Slavy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adunh_slavy/32/265310_2.png) [@Adunh\_Slavy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adunh_Slavy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/152 "2021-04-05T18:19:58Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > I just proved you were wrong. So yes, I am biased towards the truth. Nothing wrong with that. You are sadly amusing. Where did you prove I wanted to change the game? Oh that’s right, you’ve done no such thing. A nice guy wouldn’t avoid letting everyone know if they felt any remorse or not, but you do everything you can to avoid the subject. Why? ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/153 "2021-04-05T18:24:29Z")
> [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > You are sadly amusing. Where did you prove I wanted to change the game? Oh that’s right, you’ve done no such thing. > [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > That seems obvious, if things are out of balance, then something needs to change to get in balance. > [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > something needs to change > [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > change > [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > change > [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > needs > [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > change > [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > A nice guy wouldn’t avoid letting everyone know if they felt any remorse or not, but you do everything you can to avoid the subject. Why? I answered whether i felt remorse or not, like 10 posts ago. How is that avoiding anything? Me: Post something. You: “Youre avoiding posting it!!!” Me: Lolwtf ---
**Author:** ![Adunh\_Slavy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adunh_slavy/32/265310_2.png) [@Adunh\_Slavy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adunh_Slavy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/154 "2021-04-05T18:32:09Z")
Not a single one of those suggests a change to the game. Not one. That was your original claim, you have failed and will continue to fail. Feel free to shift the goals posts around as much as you want, make stuff up, equivocate as much as you can. All you’re doing is exposing your self for who and what you are. Please continue. And by all means,. please continue to avoid any mention empathy or remorse. So far the only thing you’ve said on the subject is “I have no remorse for dishonest arguers like you.” which is just an evasion. Why are you so scared of letting everyone here know if you have any feelings of empathy or remorse for victims? ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/155 "2021-04-05T18:41:55Z")
> [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > Not a single one of those suggests a change to the game. Not one. That was your original claim, you have failed and will continue to fail. Feel free to shift the goals posts around as much as you want, make stuff up, equivocate as much as you can. All you’re doing is exposing your self for who and what you are. Oh, so instead of changing the game, you were suggesting changing… What, the laws of physics? This is why youre such a dishonest arguer. > [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > Please continue. And by all means,. please continue to avoid any mention empathy or remorse. So far the only thing you’ve said on the subject is “I have no remorse for dishonest arguers like you.” which is just an evasion. Id ask you to explain why you think its an evasion when you asked me if i have any empathy or remorse, and I wrote that i have none for you. But I already know that all you have are assertions. > [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > Why are you so scared of letting everyone here know if you have any feelings of empathy or remorse for victims? I told you, i have no remorse for you, and you are certainly a victim. As for remorse or empathy for victims, depends. Which victim? Each circumstance is different. ---
**Author:** ![Adunh\_Slavy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adunh_slavy/32/265310_2.png) [@Adunh\_Slavy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adunh_Slavy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/156 "2021-04-05T18:44:49Z")
Here it is again, the original question that you keep doing all you can to avoid: “Do you feel any empathy or remorse for the victims of the multi-boxing solo player?” ---
**Author:** ![Adunh\_Slavy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adunh_slavy/32/265310_2.png) [@Adunh\_Slavy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adunh_Slavy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/157 "2021-04-05T18:52:09Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Id ask you to explain why you think its an evasion when you asked me if i have any empathy or remorse, and I wrote that i have none for you. You’re making my argument for me. Thanks for the assistance. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/158 "2021-04-05T18:55:38Z")
> [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > “Do you feel any empathy or remorse for the victims of the multi-boxing solo player?” Again, which victim? Do i feel any empathy or remorse for a guy in a 10 billion isk jump freighter hauling 100 billion isk that gets ganked because he was afk in Niarja space by a multiboxing solo player? No. Do I feel any empathy or remorse for you, a dishonest arguer? No. ---
**Author:** ![Adunh\_Slavy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adunh_slavy/32/265310_2.png) [@Adunh\_Slavy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adunh_Slavy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/159 "2021-04-05T18:57:06Z")
So you finally admit you’ve no remorse for those other players. See how easy that was? Thank you for showing everyone what you are. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/160 "2021-04-05T18:57:08Z")
> [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > You’re making my argument for me. Thanks for the assistance. The only argument youve made is an argument that you suck at making arguments. So yes, Ive made your argument for you. It took your opponent to make your argument for you, therefore proving that you suck at making arguments. Youre welcome. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731.md?page=9)