# Risk / Reward in Suicide Ganking out of Order? **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [March 28, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731 "2021-03-28T17:42:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 47
**Author:** ![Vaendil\_Reyksen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vaendil_reyksen/32/259961_2.png) [@Vaendil\_Reyksen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vaendil_Reyksen)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731/47 "2021-04-01T07:23:29Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > Ganking is on an all time low in EvE I call BS on that. Source? You have none! You just throw statements to benefit your point. > [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > You can theoretically do a lot of things against ganking already BS. And you know it. > [@Lis\_Torin](#): > > and was using autopilot? Or hauled more than it’s worth to kill? Keep fishing, you’ll eventually pull out an old shoe. > [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > I don’t know man Truest thing you ever posted. > [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > Being a highsec criminal is far from without risk BS. > [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > A Hulk that is mining aligned can immediately warp to safety Hahaha!! Do you even play EVE? > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > The gankers are guaranteed to lose their ships. BS. And you know it. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > You consent to pvp the moment you undock Yaddy-yadda… Don’t you guys ever get tired of writing the same old sh- ? > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > The risk that’s involved is already one of the highest, the guaranteed loss of their ship Fallacy. Most gankers don’t lose their ship. You’re talking about suicide ganking. Not all ganking is suicidal. > [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > Or immediately stash it in a fleet hang How about folding it in your pocket? Any stupid argument to defend gankers, right? > [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > You are not helpless Look who’s talking. > [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > before asking for changes to it Yes, let’s not change the one thing that new players quit over then waste a whole thread writing about Player Retention 🙄 > [@Xeux](#): > > The reason there is no counterplay against gankers is because the highsec miners have been sqeauling for years that ganking is too easy You don’t count in this discussion, you’re merely and Alt for that extortionist Aiko. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Since it seems you’re committed to playing the victim, I’ll just wish you luck with whatever’s left of your EVE career And then now try to be genuine about Player Retention. > [@Nerf Ganking Megathread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/1): > > Myth: Suicide ganking is unbalanced in favor of the gankers The only Myths in this forum are your opinions. > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Why does C.O.D.E. never come after me Because you’re a spy for them, DUH > [@wolfstallion](#): > > i fail to see how it’s anyone fault for getting ganked then the person who got ganked Yes, blame the victim, that ought to work well for Player Retention. > [@Vuoliganar\_Madeveda](#): > > Losing 10m to get 15m is a very small profit. They don’t care about profits, they care about their score on zKillboard. > [@Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](#): > > Today, you are quite safe in Highsec Source please, source. You have none! You’re just throwing statements to benefit your worthless argument. > [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Make friends. Join corps. But it’s a Sandbox game, right? Where someone is forced to play as YOU want them to. 🙄 > [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > The game mechanics make it exceedingly easy to shoot and kill gankers. Biggest BS in this whole thread. > [@Xuixien](#): > > There’s always been a lot of suicide ganking in HiSec. Some areas are worse than others. Right, one says > [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > Ganking is on an all time low in EvE And you say: > [@Xuixien](#): > > There’s always been a lot of suicide ganking in HiSec And another clown says > [@Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](#): > > Today, you are quite safe in Highsec You clowns ought to at least get your BS straight before denying the OP the least deference. > [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Thats not the games fault, thats your fault for joining something colloquially known as an MMORP Truest statement in this thread. He made the mistake of downloading EVE in the first place. A game that pretends to be Sandbox but forces players to play as others want them to. > [@Xuixien](#): > > buffing the EHP of all ships just so that suicide ganks are harder is a very one-sided and self-centered view of the game, TBH. But to force players to play ONE way isn’t self-centered. Ooooki > [@Adunh\_Slavy](#): > > That does not mean it is not happening. Looking at some of the kills, a strong argument could be made that it is happening frequently. They’re not arguing the point, they’re arguing against OP with every BS statement under the sun because ganking is what keeps EVE alive. > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Reward is set by players and is 100% up to you BS and you know it. ‐---------------------------------------------- Now let’s see all of you spew BS in a thread about Player Retention. That oughtta be hilarious. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/risk-reward-in-suicide-ganking-out-of-order/302731)._