# Rolling Thunder - New Update on 22 Sep **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [September 16, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364 "2020-09-16T15:54:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Vloden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vloden/32/184207_2.png) [@Vloden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vloden)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/81 "2020-09-17T22:50:14Z")
It’s 2150 instead of 1250, not 2160 instead of 2150. ---
**Author:** ![Talaris\_EveningStar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talaris_eveningstar/32/501692_2.png) [@Talaris\_EveningStar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talaris_EveningStar)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/82 "2020-09-17T22:52:20Z")
According to CCP and the video they put out for them, yes. The Triglavians only invade High Sec/Low Sec. The EDENCOM ships were ships promised to Capsuleers by EDENCOM for fighting Triglavians. So yes, these ships are _SUPPOSED_ to be high sec PVE capable. Of course they’re just another broken promise from CCP. A lot of those lately. ---
**Author:** ![Vloden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vloden/32/184207_2.png) [@Vloden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vloden)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/83 "2020-09-17T22:59:28Z")
I don’t understand at all why you do this supposition, pve is pve, high sec is high sec, no one should be allowed to say high sec is meant for pve. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/84 "2020-09-17T23:50:46Z")
> [@Talaris\_EveningStar](#): > > So yes, these ships are _SUPPOSED_ to be high sec PVE capable. Of No they’re not? ---
**Author:** ![Blade\_Darth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blade_darth/32/378598_2.png) [@Blade\_Darth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blade_Darth)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/85 "2020-09-18T09:19:50Z")
> [@Vitiate\_Incarnate](#): > > Trail of Tears I’m from europe and have no clue what it is. Sounds cool/ evil though. Rolling Thunder… heard that one but all I knew is it was a military operation in Asia or somewhere. And sounds cool too… I think it’s a movie title. devs are from europe so they won’t know every detail of US history. And if you dig deep enough, lots of words/ combinations will sound bad in a language somewhere on the planet… can’t make everyone happy xP ---
**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/86 "2020-09-18T10:23:06Z")
About EDENCOM ships. No matter how long you polish the poop it remains poop. It is simply a bad concept for Eve. In other games it might make sense to have an AOE/chain attack, but here it doesn’t work at all due to many mechanics. ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/87 "2020-09-18T14:12:34Z")
Why not add cloacked drones capability whilst at there. Or remote cloacking of sort. Good stuff but maybe too powerful for everyone… I’m not trying to fix EDENCOM… it was unintentional… ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/88 "2020-09-18T15:35:55Z")
civilian techs operating military equipment in a war zone … > [@Vitiate\_Incarnate](#): > > Just FYI. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/89 "2020-09-19T02:08:46Z")
> [@Queotzcatl](#): > > Why not add cloacked drones capability Made me think, cloaked/stealth probes! OH the evil! 😱 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/90 "2020-09-19T02:29:50Z")
Would they appear in local? ---
**Author:** ![xxxPainXXX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxpainxxx/32/226203_2.png) [@xxxPainXXX](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxPainXXX)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/91 "2020-09-19T12:17:25Z")
They called the update rolling thunder not operation rolling thunder. You know, like the weather when the thunder literally rolls accross the sky. It would be like naming it after auswitz if auswitz was actually called acid rain and trail of tears was actually called any other weather event or whatever. > **[thunder](https://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/earth/weather/concepts/thunder)** “Rolling thunder occurs either as a result of the time difference between sounds from the far and near end of a flash, or when mountains, layers of air, or other obstructions cause reverberations.” EDENCOM ships fire lightning bolts so obviosuly rolling thunder is a reference to that, not a military invasion. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/92 "2020-09-19T13:27:26Z")
I have found that any time I use words to describe something, there will be somebody who takes offense. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/93 "2020-09-19T13:35:36Z")
welcome to 2020 ---
**Author:** ![Auriyon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/auriyon/32/271967_2.png) [@Auriyon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Auriyon)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/94 "2020-09-19T13:43:38Z")
Thunderchild desperately needs attention too. In fact the whole weapon system would benefit from more damage to initial target with less to subsequent targets. I can’t even complete L3 missions in it. ---
**Author:** ![Auriyon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/auriyon/32/271967_2.png) [@Auriyon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Auriyon)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/95 "2020-09-19T14:23:24Z")
Except you can’t use vortons and drones at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Syfa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syfa/32/311121_2.png) [@Syfa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syfa)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/96 "2020-09-19T21:07:37Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > I have met some players that missed logging, or better yet at least half a dozen newer players…that dont have the Edencom Frigate skillbook… > > Those stupid skills you gave us and made them apply only instead of going into hangars… > > How about seeding them into game CCP??? @HILO_JADAVEON_V @Max_Deveron The skills _are_ seeded into the game - you can buy them right from your character sheet, everything except the vorton specialization skills and the invention skills for them. It is just a matter of going into your character sheet and dragging the skill into the queue and the game will ask you if you want to buy it from the character sheet. You do not need to get gouged on the market. ---
**Author:** ![NoaIV\_lambertsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noaiv_lambertsen/32/245258_2.png) [@NoaIV\_lambertsen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NoaIV_lambertsen)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/97 "2020-09-19T22:46:42Z")
while i love the look of edencom ships looking at the price for any thing that goes one them from weapons to armor or any thing else makes my eyes hurt as such i well will not touch the damned things ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/98 "2020-09-19T23:58:00Z")
> [@Syfa](#): > > You do not need to get gouged on the market So except for the important skills you mean. It’s about 5 billion isk for the skill books currently all up. Of course no one is using them in any kind of significant way ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/99 "2020-09-19T23:59:43Z")
What important skills? The whole ship and weapon line is fail. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364/100 "2020-09-20T00:03:36Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > The whole ship and weapon line is fail Well ok yeah. Hard to argue that. The bonuses not only have no synergy, they actively work against each other. If ever a ship line should have no drones EDENCOM are that ship line. A case of decent design concept, actively sabotaged in implementation. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rolling-thunder-new-update-on-22-sep/267364.md?page=6)