# Rookie Griefing Policy was updated Monday

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 14, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258 "2017-07-14T05:43:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/207 "2017-09-13T16:15:51Z")

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Another carebear apologist deflecting with his opinion about ‘honorabru PVP’.

You think gankers are mean so you don’t care. We got it.

P.S. You have to flip past all those pages of retriever kills to find the combat ships. As a noob I lacked direction so I played in null, luckily though it didn’t take me long to figure out where the real elite pvp goes down: James 315 space!

Also, 800 kills? Oh! You forgot about the rest of the galaxy farm! Check out Galaxies chicken and mule!

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/208 "2017-09-13T19:10:00Z")

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“No u.”  
“No u.”  
“No u.”  
“No u.”

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**Author:** ![Frostys\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frostys_virpio/32/12703_2.png) [@Frostys\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frostys_Virpio)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/209 "2017-09-13T20:01:41Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> You think gankers are mean so you don’t care. We got it.

I don’t know about him but my personal stance is it does not matter what your in game activity are. If you want to play around the rules and see how far it will bend, it might break in your face and I won’t feel sorry for you. It’s like people playing with tree brances for example. “Look at how far I bent it!!! SPLAT!!!” Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/210 "2017-09-13T20:15:14Z")

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You’re straw manning again. No one is talking about seeing “how far it will bend” just being as bad as we’re **allowed** to be. I don’t want to bend the rules at all.

Do you see driving the speed limit as ‘seeing how far the speed limit will bend’?

This kind of logic is a symptom of carebearism.

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**Author:** ![Persifonne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/persifonne/32/15994_2.png) [@Persifonne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Persifonne)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/211 "2017-09-13T20:20:48Z")

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I DRIVE OVER THE SPEED LIMIT!

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**Author:** ![Sonya\_Corvinus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonya_corvinus/32/12161_2.png) [@Sonya\_Corvinus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonya_Corvinus)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/212 "2017-09-13T20:38:12Z")

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Galaxy, define carebear for me, please.

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**Author:** ![Frostys\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frostys_virpio/32/12703_2.png) [@Frostys\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frostys_Virpio)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/213 "2017-09-13T20:44:03Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> Do you see driving the speed limit as ‘seeing how far the speed limit will bend’?

No but going a bit over while holding to the belief that the cops tolerate X over the limit anyway yes. Same for “tree branches can totes bend that much without snapping back in my face”.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/214 "2017-09-13T20:46:41Z")

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I use the term loosely to refer to people who do carebear things and have carebear attitudes.

Carebears will often try to turn it around on me “nuh uh, YOU’RE the carebear! HA!” but that doesn’t really make sense. Seeing as how I hunt carebears, it becomes exceedingly unhelpful to refer to me as the same thing.

No, you carebears need to come up with your own derogatory word to refer to us instead of stealing ours. Lack of imagination and originality is one of the defining characteristics of a carebear, after all.

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**Author:** ![Sonya\_Corvinus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonya_corvinus/32/12161_2.png) [@Sonya\_Corvinus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonya_Corvinus)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/215 "2017-09-13T21:30:49Z")

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Galaxy, sorry, I asked if you could define carebear for me. My fault if that wasn’t clear.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/216 "2017-09-13T21:41:22Z")

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Sorry, that’s about as good as I can do. If you like, I can give you a list of known carebears so you can try to elucidate the pattern on your own? 😄

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**Author:** ![Sonya\_Corvinus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonya_corvinus/32/12161_2.png) [@Sonya\_Corvinus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonya_Corvinus)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/217 "2017-09-13T21:43:58Z")

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Please do.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/218 "2017-09-13T21:50:17Z")

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Oh, sorry… I wasn’t actually offering that, I was just ridiculing you…

I thought you would get it…

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**Author:** ![Sonya\_Corvinus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonya_corvinus/32/12161_2.png) [@Sonya\_Corvinus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonya_Corvinus)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/219 "2017-09-13T21:57:50Z")

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oh honey…

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**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/220 "2017-09-14T01:55:25Z")

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> [@Galen\_Kane](#):
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> I’m like this I can and have taken the grief

I saw the grief once.. looked me right in the eye :slowparrot:

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**Author:** ![Ender\_Airuta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ender_airuta/32/24245_2.png) [@Ender\_Airuta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ender_Airuta)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/221 "2017-09-14T04:12:49Z")

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Setting up a gank alt tomorrow. Better to help protect them from the toxicity that exists in Iceland before they invest any time or money into this chit show.

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**Author:** ![Rosov\_Aulmais](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rosov_aulmais/32/168511_2.png) [@Rosov\_Aulmais](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rosov_Aulmais)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/222 "2017-09-14T05:32:54Z")

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Wait, what will happen if you lose your mission-related item and failing the mission of an epic arc? Are you doomed for this arc or you can do it again?

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**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/223 "2017-09-14T13:58:07Z")

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yes i’m aware of your little group as i ran the soe arc on this new player . my only real crticism of you is you’re a bit nasty in local , and not enough RP . some of the code folks are actually funny , and nothing takes the sting out of a ship loss like a bit of humor . i’d ask you to remember that some of the players you kill could stick around and contribute to the game we all play together .

as for carebear , if it means risk-averse , you’re in that box . i’m not criticizing your play-style , just pointing out the truth you seem to so carefully dance around .

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/224 "2017-09-14T16:19:39Z")

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Let me see here…

Nasty? Pffff, I’m the nicest guy.

I’m not a roll player and the New Order isn’t a roll play organization. Common misconception, so you’re forgiven.

Not interested in taking the sting out of your loss or the hurt out of your butt.

Not my job to retain players (though I’m quite good at it), that’s CCP’s job.

Risk averse? Yeahhh that’s the very broad definition used by carebears when attempting to turn the phrase around on those using it to describe them.

Funny thing is, only carebears ever get confused about the definition of the word carebear. Everyone else seems to know exactly who I’m talking about.

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**Author:** ![Sonya\_Corvinus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonya_corvinus/32/12161_2.png) [@Sonya\_Corvinus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonya_Corvinus)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/225 "2017-09-15T01:14:53Z")

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Don’t feed the troll.

If you ignore Galaxy long enough, you get amazing rants about how unfair the game is from him.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/226 "2017-09-15T02:30:55Z")

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The game is very fair. That’s exactly the reason carebear tears are funny. We all have the same tools available to us.

Rule enforcement, not so fair, but don’t get me started…

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