# Rookie Griefing Policy was updated Monday **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 14, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258 "2017-07-14T05:43:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/167 "2017-08-11T18:35:51Z")
it means you wont get banned for peeing in other peoples shoes ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/168 "2017-08-11T18:39:37Z")
that didn’t help, but i appreciate the attempt… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Chanisa\_Nemes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_chanisa_nemes/32/11843_2.png) [@ISD\_Chanisa\_Nemes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Chanisa_Nemes)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/169 "2017-08-11T19:19:33Z")
We have streamlined our rules from the old forums to give you guys a little more breathing room. I’m just here to make sure that things don’t derail too hard and keep it all balanced. Unless it’s Crime and Punishment and then all bets are off XD ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/170 "2017-08-11T19:44:36Z")
You spelled, “here” wrong. ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/171 "2017-08-11T19:48:00Z")
May i post a list of swear words etc., to figure out which are getting censored? 😊 We could make a forum-community event out of it! 😁 ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/172 "2017-08-11T19:56:32Z")
So what you’re saying is that moderators will allow C&P to basically be a shithole of unmoderated and derailed threads, trolled by forum alts? ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Chanisa\_Nemes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_chanisa_nemes/32/11843_2.png) [@ISD\_Chanisa\_Nemes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Chanisa_Nemes)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/173 "2017-08-11T20:14:11Z")
I mean, that’s what it’s always been. We’re just continuing the tradition. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/174 "2017-08-11T20:39:47Z")
whats shes saying is all forum content should just direct to c&p where people can say waht they want chan-chan wouldn’t it be easier just to make the whole forum c&p rules? ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/175 "2017-08-11T20:45:06Z")
I beg to differ. C&P used to have actual content with the Pirate Stories thread. There was plenty of trash talk and messing around, but it was always centered around what really brought people there: the in-game content that was worth sharing with others. Now you have a sub-forum where everyone acts like a pointless jackass and you allow actual threads with content to get derailed without moderation. I like these new forums, but hate that you guys can’t properly support the players that tell the stories that draw in your new players you’re after. If a new person happens to come here instead of Reddit, all your resident autists will scare everyone off. Just a suggestion. Sorry to discuss your moderation. ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/176 "2017-08-11T20:46:39Z")
Is mass flagging of offenders actually happening? ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Chanisa\_Nemes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_chanisa_nemes/32/11843_2.png) [@ISD\_Chanisa\_Nemes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Chanisa_Nemes)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/177 "2017-08-11T20:55:47Z")
This topic isn’t supposed to be about ISD or our moderation methods so I am going to say this last comment and stop all further discussion on the topic. There is a reason why we have had rules against discussing forum moderation; everyone has their own idea of what is the “correct” way to moderate and thus we really can’t make anyone happy on the matter. Either we are too heavy-handed or we don’t do enough. We have a set of rules that we follow that have designed to be even-handed and address most scenarios but there will still always be gray area. All I can say is that where I stand, I try and do my best to keep discussions going without stepping on anyone’s toes. Also, if you have issues with the way that we moderate these new forums, please feel free to file a ticket. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/178 "2017-08-11T20:57:56Z")
resident autists its not my fault i have the mental age of a cat ok ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/179 "2017-08-11T21:07:48Z")
Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Macker\_Momo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/macker_momo/32/13499_2.png) [@Macker\_Momo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Macker_Momo)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/180 "2017-08-12T02:05:30Z")
I completely agree with your sentiment. CCP sure seemed proud of the research showing “why” people stayed. I visited my starter system years ago, during my first few weeks in EVE. There were plenty of players in there successfully baiting noobs into shooting first. Come to think of it, the server populations were much higher then, right? Haha. I’ve never been back to that system and don’t have any reason to return. The Internet is full of seal-clubbers, though. ---
**Author:** ![Tengu\_Grib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tengu_grib/32/130944_2.png) [@Tengu\_Grib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tengu_Grib)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/181 "2017-08-12T04:07:13Z")
Just the way we like it, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Tengu\_Grib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tengu_grib/32/130944_2.png) [@Tengu\_Grib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tengu_Grib)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/182 "2017-08-12T04:11:01Z")
I was pissed when the new pirate stories thread was liked because some lame ■■■■ lord shat all over the thread. Rather than fixing the problem the just killed the whole thread. ---
**Author:** ![Rowdy\_Ronny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rowdy_ronny/32/11231_2.png) [@Rowdy\_Ronny](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rowdy_Ronny)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/183 "2017-08-12T07:44:15Z")
> [@Shailagh\_R](#): > > spoonfed and watered down easy mode Putting an indicator is not any of that. Like when EVE Intrdocued around 2004 the message when entering 0.4 systems from 0.5 systems. Then gap between safe and unsafe space. Well, in those days it was. There, did you see some PVP elite players are still confused about what is safe space and what not? Yes there was some skirmishes in high sec but it wasn’t large groups roaming and trashing any non-PVP gameplay. I still remember when a .CODE player was permabanned for BOTTING… ffs, a botter attacking legit newbro miner/haulers (non-PVPers). ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/184 "2017-08-12T13:33:43Z")
What? ---
**Author:** ![Sonya\_Corvinus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonya_corvinus/32/12161_2.png) [@Sonya\_Corvinus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonya_Corvinus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/185 "2017-08-12T13:59:08Z")
The defining characteristic of a carebear is the desire for risk free gameplay. Miners who whine about gankers in HS, PvPers who never shoot anything that doesn’t shoot back, etc. Two sides of the same carebear-y coin. ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258/186 "2017-08-12T14:18:01Z")
> [@Sonya\_Corvinus](#): > > The defining characteristic of a carebear is the desire for risk free gameplay. Miners who whine about gankers in HS, PvPers who never shoot anything that doesn’t shoot back, etc. Two sides of the same carebear-y coin. May I interject? > PvPers who whine about anyone who shoots back, or who avoids a gank through skill This way you keep it consistent, because you’ve started the (too short) list with: > Miners who _whine_ about gankers in HS This way you give less room for attacks as well, because you avoid the [group attribution error](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_attribution_error), which makes you generalize the few onto the many. I totally agree with you, btw. Everywhere one looks, throughout every branch of the game, there’s an easily triggerable carebear waiting to jump out of his hole. Dare I say it’s amazing in its own way. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rookie-griefing-policy-was-updated-monday/10258.md?page=10)